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Or is it another oopsie?

2007-10-31 17:01:36 · 13 answers · asked by Nina, BaC 7 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

shjOds_442: I feel for them too. They are so misled. The saddest thing is that they claim to be Christians. God loves them, but they act like their organization is the ONLY channel of communication between God. And they have been proven wrong so many times. They even admit it.

2007-10-31 17:28:58 · update #1

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The central CORE doctrine of the Watchtower,yes the reason the Watchtower came into existence was to declare Jesus second coming in 1914.When the prophecy (derived from William Miller of 1842) failed they said that he came "invisibly".


Ergo,no 1914 then there can be no 1918 inspection and sealing of the 'anointed' so the entire Watchtower doctrinal superstructure comes crashing down like a house of cards.

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2007-10-31 22:28:12 · answer #1 · answered by Darlene G 1 · 2 2

Yeah, and the Watchtower has all in all, has envisioned the top of the worldwide for 1914, 1918, 1925, 1975, and 1989. So, yeah, "IT" is the only "authentic" Channel between God and individuals. enable's not forget approximately, that Russell declared that the 2nd Coming had taken place invisibly in October 1874, and the Lord grow to be particularly present, and that throughout the time of 1914 the trustworthy (the a hundred and forty four,000) could be translated to heaven and the depraved destroyed. Armageddon (which began in 1874) could culminate in 1914 with the finished overthrow of earth's rulers and the top of the worldwide. C.T. Russell, nevertheless in the worldwide, died in 1916. interior the early Nineteen Twenties, JWs zealously dispensed on the streets and from door to door a e book titled tens of millions Now residing will in no way Die. It grow to be prophesied, "The 3 hundred and sixty 5 days 1925 is a date relatively and clearly marked interior the Scriptures, much greater for sure than that of 1914 ... we'd optimistically assume that 1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the trustworthy prophets of old ... to the situation of human perfection" ("tens of millions Now residing will in no way Die," The Watchtower, 7/15/24, p. 89). The JWs even outfitted a house in San Diego the place the patriarchs have been to stay and tried to deed it to King David. (the abode grow to be quietly bought in 1954.) interior the early Forties, JWs have been affirming that Armageddon, basically months away, could end worldwide conflict II and the defeat of the Nazis could usher in God's rule in the worldwide (The Watchtower, 12/40-one). Their e book, little ones, suggested that plans to marry and function little ones be postponed until eventually after Armageddon. that's been an prolonged wait! not giving up, they later prophesied that God's millennial kingdom could initiate in 1975. back JWs have been informed to not work together in any plans for this worldwide, alongside with marriage and having little ones. Many quit their jobs, bought their residences, and devoted themselves to going door to door. (source: 3/ninety seven, The Berean call.) So, save on readin' LOL

2016-09-28 02:47:41 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

That is a qood question Nina. Let’s see what the Watchtower says

In 1924 Watchtower, 1-1, p. 5
"Surely there is not the slightest room for doubt in the mind of a truly consecrated child of God that the Lord Jesus is present and has been since 1874...."

In 1929 Prophecy, p.65
"The Scriptural proof is that the second presence of the Lord Jesus Christ began in 1874 A.D."


So it seems the Watchtower – whom Jehovah’s Witnesses take their marching orders from, says Jesus returned on 1874

Looks like another oopsie

2007-11-01 05:21:54 · answer #3 · answered by WhatIf 4 · 2 2

It has proven many times over that Jehovah's Witnesses is a false cult religion bringing the name of God but twisting the Bible teaching rightly-divided (2 Timothy 2:15) Theres nothing to prove with religious fanatics along with the Mormons, Seventh Day Adventists, and thousand groups both in the inside and outside of christendom. This all includes the eastern religions who are even invading the christian dominated nations of the world. Making their religion as their main business. Of course Christianity is profitable because if Christianity is not profitable then there is no Christianity at all. Look closely the leading nations of the world historically dominated by Christians like USA, UK, Canada, etc. 67 nations all in all.

2007-10-31 18:32:08 · answer #4 · answered by periclesundag 4 · 3 2

No.

Jehovah's Witnesses have always understood the bible to be the only inspired infallible means of knowing God's will and purposes. The teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses have never been presented as infallible or inspired, but as the sincere results of conscientious bible research.

For example, the bible itself tells its readers that Christ's presence would be "with the clouds". The apostle Paul plainly implied that the enemies of Christianity would NOT be able to "see" Christ.

(Revelation 1:5-7) Jesus Christ, “the Faithful Witness,”...Look! He is coming with the clouds

(1 Timothy 6:13-16) I give you orders that you observe the commandment...until the manifestation of our Lord Jesus Christ. ...who dwells in unapproachable light, whom not one of men has seen or can see.

(Ephesians 1:18) ...the eyes of your heart having been enlightened...

(2 Corinthians 3:16) When there is a turning to Jehovah, the veil is taken away.


The fact that Jesus comes "in the clouds" reminds one of the presence of the sun behind clouds. Anyone can "see" that the sun has risen, even if the sun's outline is not plainly delineated. The effects of the sun can be seen, and any person can discern the other clues indicating the literal presence of the sun above the horizon.

The bible describes something similar with regard to the personal qualities of the Creator.

(Romans 1:19-20) What may be known about God is manifest among them, for God made it manifest to them. For his invisible qualities are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made

Thus, it seems rather obvious that only those actually LOOKING for the Christ will discern his presence.

Learn more:
http://watchtower.ca/e/rq/index.htm?article=article_05.htm
http://watchtower.ca/e/dg/index.htm?article=article_10.htm
http://watchtower.ca/e/lmn/index.htm?article=article_01.htm
http://watchtower.ca/e/ti/index.htm?article=article_09.htm
http://watchtower.ca/e/20000622/

2007-11-01 05:59:46 · answer #5 · answered by achtung_heiss 7 · 0 1

NO... There will be a loud noise no body would ever hear before that would announce His coming.. and Jesus will come visibly on a white horse. Don't listen to them, they are a cult. I suggest you to read the book of Revelations..There is more honest information in there than those quacks.

2007-10-31 17:07:04 · answer #6 · answered by spunky 3 · 3 2

When you have built a place of arrival on the top of a mountain and are awaiting a physical appearance biased on a prediction, and it does not happen, you have to say something.

2007-10-31 17:08:41 · answer #7 · answered by the_buccaru 5 · 2 2

Go lie somewhere else. Witnesses never claimed that Jesus had already arrived invisibly. Give it a rest.

2007-10-31 17:04:31 · answer #8 · answered by Epitome_inc 4 · 5 4

I feel for them. They are so misled.

"Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" Gal. 4:16


Don't Worry About Hell
Jehovah's Witnesses -- What Do They Believe?

Issue Date: May/June 1985

They offer a cunning mixture of Scripture verses and "almost" Christian doctrines. Their approach, like that of the Mormons, is to stress elements of their doctrine which avoid controversy. The rest comes later.

But they are an "organization" of slaves, working desperately to "earn" eternal life. They seek salvation, not by grace, but by becoming "Kingdom Publishers."

They don't have a personal relationship with Christ (who they say is not God), but rather they observe a system of law and works.

They devote their attention to an all-encompassing fascination with prophecy, and the "vindication of God's sovereignty." They believe:

Jehovah God existed from the beginning. His first creations were two angels, Michael (who later becomes Jesus) and Lucifer. Jehovah God created all else through his firstborn, Jesus (Michael).

Jehovah appointed Lucifer to watch over earth, but the angel became jealous of Jehovah. He seduced Adam and Eve, and became Satan. He dared challenge Jehovah's right to rule! Jehovah gave Satan 6,000 years to try to win over all humanity. When he fails, Jehovah God will re-establish his kingdom and destroy Satan and all his rebellious followers, thus vindicating Jehovah's name (an obsession with Witnesses).

After thousands of years of this struggle, Jehovah God arranged for Michael to cease to exist and be recreated as Jesus, a human. He was killed as a ransom on a torture stake (not a cross) for all mankind. This released men from Adam's sinful legacy, and gave them a chance to be worthy of eternal life, if they were faithful Witnesses.

When the human Jesus died, he stayed dead. He was recreated as a spirit (no bodily resurrection) and lives in heaven.

Jesus Christ (now Michael) returned to earth invisibly in 1914 (the date has been changed repeatedly) and is working through his "Organization" to re-establish Jehovah's kingdom over the earth.

The final battle between Jehovah and Satan, the Battle of Armageddon, is to start shortly, settling the question, "Who will rule earth?" A very special 144,000 Witnesses, the only ones considered "born again," will rule with Jesus in heaven at the end of this battle. All other Witnesses (numbering millions) will survive Armageddon, and live forever on earth, in the kingdom of the "New World."

After 1,000 years of this utopian Kingdom comes the final test. Satan will be loosed for a while and deceive many. He and those who rebel with him will be destroyed by fire from heaven (no eternal hell, just quick annihilation). Jehovah's sovereignty over all creation will have been vindicated once and for all.

While many Christians disagree on the order of final events, there can be no disagreement on the work of Christ, or one is not really Christian. J.W.'s bear the indelible mark of a cult: they claim Christ's death on the cross is not sufficient for full salvation. One must believe that Jesus is God, and also in His bodily resurrection. Both are denied by the Witnesses.

In fact, Jehovah's Witnesses deny most of the basic doctrines of Christianity. Former Witnesses point out several basic denials:

They claim:

Jesus Christ is not God. Rather, he is Michael the archangel.
The Holy Spirit is not a person, but an "active force." J.W.'s are unitarians, denying the Trinity.
When you're dead, you're dead. Man has no eternal soul, any more than animals.
Jesus Christ was not raised bodily from the grave, but was recreated as a new "spirit body."
Jesus returned invisibly in 1914. There is no "visible coming" planned in the future.
There is no hell. Just like animals, when we die, it is over.
Only 144,000 people achieve heaven. The rest, faithful Witnesses who have died, will be recreated on earth during the kingdom of the "New World."

Focusing on the Old Testament, their system is a legalistic one. They forbid blood transfusions (they say that is eating blood). They also consider any salute to a flag as worship of that flag, and therefore prohibited. They don't vote, hold public office or serve in the military.

Consumed with preparing for a "New World," they know nothing of "New Life" in Jesus Christ.

Up Date:

Jamie O, comments and quotes come from former JWs

2007-10-31 17:05:06 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 3 5

Not to my knowledge

EDIT: To "Shjolds_442" I suggest you do your research before speaking for Jehovah's Witnesses. It just goes to show how truly ignorant you people are. Thanks for confirming what I've known all along!

2007-10-31 17:04:48 · answer #10 · answered by Crocodile Dundee 5 · 3 4

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