Jesus was not born December 25th.?

Question

So why do Christians celebrate it on that day?http://users.aristotle.net/~bhuie/birthday.htm

Answer 1

I was told He was born on Christmas Day. And there's that song too.

Hark now hear the angels sing
A king was born today
And men will live forevermore
Because of Christmas Day

Answer 2

Because around A.D 313 (I believe) Constantine declared Christianity the religon of Rome and declared December 25th as the celebration for both Christians (for Christs birth) and for Pagans (for their festival) to try to keep both sets of people happy. It's is widely known and realized by many including Christians that Christ was not born December 25th. However there is no real evidence to show what date he was born. Why not let everyone celebrate on the same day, but celebrate what they want.

Answer 3

It was not celebrated until the pagan holiday on December 25th began to wain and slowly die out. The day, already a holiday, was taken by the Catholic church to represent the day Jesus was born. They knew the taxing was more in the spring than December, but it was a free day they could use to remember Jesus. True Christians celebrate Jesus every Sunday of every week, but they celebrate the death, not the birth.

Answer 4

It was not until several hundred years after Jesus lived on the earth that people began to commemorate his birth on December 25. But that was not the date of Jesus' birth, for it evidently took place in October. So why was December 25 chosen? Some who later claimed to be Christian likely "wished the date to coincide with the pagan Roman festival marking the 'birthday of the unconquered sun.'" (The New Encyclopædia Britannica) In winter, when the sun seemed weakest, pagans held ceremonies to get this source of warmth and light to come back from its distant travels. December 25 was thought to be the day that the sun began its return. In an effort to convert pagans, religious leaders adopted this festival and tried to make it seem "Christian."

The Saturnalia also played a part in the choice of December 25. This festival honoring the Roman god of agriculture took place on December 17-24. Feasting, merrymaking, and gift-giving took place during the Saturnalia.

Answer 5

You are correct.

It appears without a shadow of a doubt that the day assigned to the Birth of the Lord, December 25, was the day on which He was "begotten of the Holy Spirit" and His birth took place on the 15th of Ethanim, September 29, thus making beautifully clear the meaning of John 1:14, "The Word becam flesh".

There is very definite proof of this date which any bible scholar knows and the proof is too numerous to go much into detail here.

The earliest allusion to December 25 (modern reckoning) as to the date for the Nativity is found in the Stromata of Clement of Alexandria about the beginning of the 3rd century. That "Christmas" was a pagan festival long before the time of our Lord is beyond doubt.

A few arguments are given below"
1) The extreme improbability, amounting almost to impossibility that Mary, under such circumstances could have undertaken a journey of about 70 miles through the hill district averaging some 3000 feet above sea level in the depth of winter

2)Shepherds and their flocks would not be found abiding in the open fields at night in December for the paramount reason that their would be no pasture at that time. It was the custom then (as now) to withdraw the flocks from the open districts and house them for the winter.

3) The Roman authorities in imposing such a "census taking" for the hated and unpopular "foreign" tax would not have enforced the imperial decree (Luke 2:1) at the most inconvenient and inclement season of the year,by compelling the people to enroll themselves at their respective "cities" in December.

4) The Course of Abia (Luke 1:5) was two yearly "ministrations" for the priests.
One being December (Chisleu) 6-12
The other June (Sivan) 13-19

The announcement to Zacharias the priest in the Temple as to the conception of John the Baptist took place between 12-18 Sivan (June 13-19) in the year 5 B.C. (This date is a proven fact)
After finishing his "ministration" , the aged priest, Zacharias, departed to his own house (Luke 1:23) which was in a city in "the hill country" of Juda (verse 39).
The 30 miles journey would probably occupy, for an old man, a couple of days at least. He would therefore arrive at his house on the 21st or 22nd June. This leaves ample time for the miraculous "conception" of Elizabeth to take place on or about the 23rd of Sivan (June) - which would correspond to June 23-24 of that year.
The fact of the conception and its date would necessarily be known at the time and afterwards, and hence the 23rd Siban (June) would henceforth be associated with the conception of John Baptist.

Luke 1:26 states that " and in the 6th month (of Elizabeth's pregancy or December) the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee named Nazareth
(27) to a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph etc. The angel told Mary she would conceive. This was in Elizabeth's 6th month (Luke 1:26).

That means that John the Baptist was born in March 4 B.C (9 month pregancy) and Jesus was conceived in Elizabeth's sixth month December 5 B.C and born in September 4 B.C.

Most scholars believe the birth date of Jesus Christ was September 29, 4 B.C or 15th Tisri.

Answer 6

Yea, and.....? I don't know and neither do you when He WAS exactly born, so we CHOOSE to celebrate it on that day and the entire world is in reverence on His behalf during that time.., no matter how those who DON'T reverence Him hate it. He WAS born, the angels announced it to Shepherds, wisemen/ astonomers from other countries knew it and traveled there to where He was in Bethlehem to honor Him, then the family fled to Egypt to escape Herod's fury and jealously, then God told them when they could come back to Israel and they settled in Nazareth where He was raised by Mary and His step-father Joseph. The fact is, the peace all men want between God and themselves was made available by Jesus' birth, death and resurrection. He WAS born and join in the celebration and don't worry about the "date".., if that were truly important, God would have nailed it down for us.., keep smiling! Isn't it amazing how we LOVE the Christmas holidays whether you worship Jesus at church, or give gift to your family, or do Santa Claus for your kids, or sing caroles or not, but it is a wonderful, time for GIVING..., and Christians love to give like their heavenly Father gave. (John 3: 16).
There's a "raffy'' who gave you some wonderful stats, but doesn't understand that the Father of Jesus is the same God that made all the constelations and they are in the heavens to signify Virgo, the virgin who gave birth to a Son; Leo, the Lion of the Tribe of Judah: Jesus; Aquarius the water-bearer.. the water of the Word poured out on the Earth.., it is the heavens declaring the glory of God etc, ... Psalm 19. God is God of all Creation. I am smiling...

Answer 7

Why do Christians celebrate it on Dec 25, because they'll ignorant. Your link is correct.

Dec 25th was HIS "conception" Luke ch 1-3 Elisabeth, Mary's cousin was 6 month along with John when Mary conceived.

Luke 1:8 the course of Abia is a date. The priests did 2 courses every year which lasted one week.

http://www.docrob.100megsfree5.com/christmas.htm

Answer 8

does it really matter when we celebrate it? And anyway, almost everyone already knows this fact. The whole point to Christmas is giving thanks to God for bringing his is son to this earth. What I would like to know is why people who don't believe in Christ celebrate Christmas. I mean it's fine and all if you like to give and receive presents, but maybe the unbelievers should pick another day to share gifts. I know; your day can be called Santa Clause day and we can keep the name Christmas. And no need for this "Christmas was actually a pagan holiday so we should be able to celebrate it", we already know this fact as well.

Answer 9

Ask the idiots in the vatican who started this whole nonsense. Christ was born in what we would call the month of November. Nimrod was born on the 25th of whatever the month of December is called in that ancient and dead language. The whole Christmas thing is Babylonian in origin, and is a fascinating story to read.

Answer 10

You are right!
It is an "observant" date. Because it wasn't documented a date was chosen for it! Just as "Columbus' Birthday Day" was'nt always on a Monday. But, people who do not love Jesus or make fun of him sure do not complain when taking those days off work, do they?

Answer 11

To reflect pagan celebrations of Saturnalia and the "birth of the unconquered sun". It was a pagan day of fertility, so since the birth of Christ is in a way a special day of fertility, why not have it celebrated on that pagan day? Of course he was born in April/May according to the gospel of Luke but it does no harm to chose that day instead.