When asked about the Mathematical Miracles they must believe in in order to accept Evolution, they say it is observable and not faith.
Yet when corned with their own faith in things that they cannot see or prove, they say, "You do not understand what faith is".
If you believe in nothing, then who are you to lecture a believer about faith?
Secondly, you do have faith, but yours is insane. It is not mathematically possible.
2007-10-31 08:36:21 · 16 answers · asked by realchurchhistorian 4 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
People make miracles out of what they do not understand. You do not understand math, therefore, you think that it is a miracle. It has nothing to do with faith.
2007-10-31 08:41:38 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 6⤊ 1⤋
Huh?
There are no mathematical miracles in evolution. There were tremendous amounts of time and space (that is, Earth is big) for very improbable things to happen. Not "miraculous" in the religious sense at all. A one-in-a-million chance will happen a lot over a couple billion years.
The evidence for evolution is overwhelming. Thus, we don't have blind faith in it, we are accepting what the evidence suggests.
What we have isn't "I believe it, even though it's absurd and there's no reason to believe it, but I WANT to believe it" stance toward evolution.
I don't know who said that you don't understand what faith is; it wasn't me.
I don't believe in nothing; I simply don't believe in imaginary beings. I don't lecture; you asked me a question, I'm answering.
Why do you think evolution is mathematically impossible? Isn't the existence of an all-powerful, all-knowing being from nothing impossible?
2007-10-31 18:23:18 · answer #2 · answered by tehabwa 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Faith is the assured expectation of things not seen, according to the Bible. That means you are expecting things to happen, or expect things to be real, that you have never seen or will never see. You believe in things without any proof. That is faith.
I don't believe in anything. I'm a skeptic, show me the proof. An old book, composed by bronze age goat herders and compiled by political wannabes is not proof.
I only know what I can see, experience directly, measure, test, and verify. I have gone to several colleges and universities and have actually seen the evidence, first hand, for evolution, dug in the fossil beds in Montana, the Burgess Shale of Canada, seen the fossil sea shells in the mountains of Colorado. Compared the antomy of several dozen animals I have personally disected including a human cadaver.
What have you done besides read your old book and listened to huckster preachers that only want to part you from your money.
2007-10-31 15:53:03 · answer #3 · answered by ? 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
If it isn't mathematically possible, why is it so? Don't confuse the terms "possible" and "probable."
You obviously don't understand what faith means. Look it up in the dictionary. It is a belief that doesn't require proof or evidence. Since there is evidence of evolution, it is not an act of faith to believe in it. Faith is also an unquestioned belief. If there were sufficient evidence to discard the theory of evolution, I would do so without feeling any remorse.
2007-10-31 15:44:56 · answer #4 · answered by Pull My Finger 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
"Faith" means the believing of something because someone tells you to believe it, nothing more. This is not a definition by Atheists, its the definition of the word faith. Faith, as defined by the religious leaders is never something believed because there is proof, evidence, logic, reason or anything other than that the "sacred text" says it, which is exactly the same as another person saying it except its written down. Still no proof or evidence provided - just someone saying you should believe it. Thats faith.
2007-10-31 15:44:05 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
Let's see...You're a creationist...Creation as a process, hmmmm??? Generally creation by definition is a one time event...therefore I respectfully submit that it can't explain change. Evolution on the other hand explains change very nicely as it's by definition a process. It's not that we believe nothing as atheists...In fact there may or may not be a God (I am actually Agnostic)...It's where we place our faith...Unfortuantely it's misplaced but where it's supposed to be in HUMANITY. So you're saying my faith however misplaced is insane, right? PEACE!
2007-10-31 15:53:12 · answer #6 · answered by thebigm57 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Something that is provable isn't faith, end of story.
And what you claim as a mathematical "miracle" is just silly. Most of the assumptions are totally baseless. We have no idea how hard it is for life to spontaneously arise and won't for a very long time. It probably isn't that hard is the honest opinion of most scientists. That is why they are actively looking for it in several spots in our own solar system.
2007-10-31 15:44:49 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 1⤋
There is only one definition of faith. Science and mathematics are not faith. Evolution IS observable and proven and is NOT faith.
You haven't cornered me about my "faith" in things, only proven that you do not understand the english language.
and for the billionth goddamned time... we do NOT "believe in nothing" idiot. We just don't believe in a god.
Use your bloody brain, not your bible. And the more you keep spouting stupid things, the more we're going to think YOU are stupid.
2007-10-31 15:41:39 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 1⤋
This is not a question.
This is an attack. I don't care one way or the other for your definitions of faith. I don't believe in god. NOT because of science or evolution. I simply find the idea idiotic.
I have faith in myself.
2007-10-31 15:45:03 · answer #9 · answered by deztructshun 3 · 3⤊ 1⤋
Since when does an atheist have faith?
2007-10-31 17:02:08 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋