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I saw a question just as ridiculous, asking if Catholics are saved Christians...so I thought it would be nice to balance things out a bit.

Do you find it contradictory that someone can claim to follow Christ and yet at the same time reject His Church?

2007-10-31 08:12:27 · 24 answers · asked by The Raven † 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

lol midge. No, it didn't, but it has certainly given me more grey than I had before. ;-)

2007-10-31 09:00:32 · update #1

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Pastor Billy says: I do find it contradictory that someone claims to follow Christ and yet reject His Church. As a Catholic I follow the Living word Jesus Christ and I accept his promises at face value he said he would never leave his Church so why now do Protestants? I see this is a hard teaching for them because they do not easily accept the historical fact of their faith communities being newly created.

Now with regards to saving, well I understand that in the final analysis it will be up to Jesus to decide who is saved and who isn't but the best way to live in Christ and have that opportunity of salvation and be fully prepared for the life to come is to be in full unity with God's One true visible Church, the Catholic Church now. The Church is a prefigurement of the kingdom to come we are called as followers of Christ to be unified and be obedient to the authorities left us by Christ, "he who hears you, hears me..."

Those Protestants who through the mercy of God are saved eventually are no longer Protestant and that is a fact ;)

2007-10-31 09:28:24 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

If protestants are in the state of grace and are not in the state of mortal sin they are "saved"
If Protestants are not in the state of grace they are no more saved than those Catholics or any others who live in the state of mortal sin and are not inthe state of grace.

There is no such thing as being unable to reject grace in this mortal life and there is no such a reality as once saved always saved if one does not stay in the state of grace

Yes, it is contrary to accept Christ yet reject His Bride

God will judge each according to the Light of grace that God gives and only God can do the judgement of the state of soul.

I am most fortunate that i can have recourse to the channels of grace from the catholic fullness of the Christian Faith such as Scripture in tradition in the church, the unity of Faith,Hope and Love, the &valid Sacraments, so many other fonts of spiritual nourishment and the example of saints and the fellowship of over a billion(both wheat and weed tares) Catholics on Earth and untold numbers of Holy Souls who have gone before us yet are in communion with us in Christ

2007-10-31 21:10:44 · answer #2 · answered by James O 7 · 2 0

That is a very complicated and loaded question. First off, the main difference between protestants and Catholics is the validity of the Pope. Protestants and Christians are actually the same thing. Protestants is a name given to most Christian churches who do not believe in the Pope as the head of the church. The Church in capitol letters is actually referring to the Catholic Church (the word catholic actually means universal). When you say Christian, you are referring to every religious denomination who believes in Jesus Christ. Even Catholics are considered Christians. Protestants do not reject the church, they just reject the authority of the Pope. The word protestant comes from the the word protest, from Luther and the protestant reformation period. I know this is a long answer, but hopefully it gave you some insight.
So now to answer your question. According to the Catholic Church, anyone who has been baptized in a Christian church, rejects Satan and claims Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior is considered a saved Christian, no matter what denomination you are a part of. In most Catholic Churches, if you are converting to Catholicism and have been baptized in another Church, you do not have to get re-baptized. Hope this helped.

2007-10-31 15:26:33 · answer #3 · answered by dg2003 5 · 4 3

Fellow Christians, (I'm Catholic BTW)why would you want to balance out idiocy with more idiocy? This is why non-believers think we're idiots. We are in a life boat surrounded by people drowning and we argue about what color we should paint the boat or which is the proper way to row. Remember the story when the apostles were arguing about who was greater, and he thought that was an absurd question, because they didn't even know what they were asking.

2007-10-31 15:25:21 · answer #4 · answered by mike w 2 · 5 1

...Anyone who has trusted in the Lord Jesus Christ as Savior is saved to the uttermost.
...John Wesley said, "There is nothing so un-Christian as a solitary Christian." "Lone-wolf" Christians do not make it in the Christian life, and are disobedient to the Scriptures.
...The Bible commands us to gather in a local assembly with other believers regularly (for worship, for encouragement, instruction, to eat the Lord's Supper, and for baptisms).
...Hebrews 11:24-25 says this:
..."And let us consider how to stimulate one another to love and good deeds, not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together as the manner of some is, and all the more, as you the Day drawing near."

2007-10-31 15:24:02 · answer #5 · answered by carson123 6 · 1 1

It is so contradictory. No wonder they're called protestants. The word protestantism is negative, i.e. protesting to something.

Protestants do not see that the very foundation of Protestantism is Catholicism. If you take that foundation out, the very structure of protestantism would crumble.

2007-10-31 15:55:51 · answer #6 · answered by jake 2 · 3 1

you are only saved if you have chosen to follow Christ, giving up those things that lead us into sin, and accepting the gift of Salvation that is only given from Jesus Christ thru His blood.

you are either saved or unsaved... no matter what denomination you attend... it isnt what denomination but the relationship with Jesus Christ that matters

2007-10-31 15:20:19 · answer #7 · answered by livinintheword † 6 · 4 1

"Saved"? Of course I agree with you. The Catholic-bashers are out in force today. Must be the holiday.

I find it presumptuous in the extreme to go around pronouncing this person "saved" and that person "going to hell," since that is God's business and His alone.

But I will say that people who do that -- condemn and judge others -- are going against Jesus's own words in the bible. Can people who deliberately go against simple Christian injunctions like "Do not judge." be called Christians?

Whenever they start spewing hate in the name of Jesus, I make a mental note to pray for them, that the Holy Spirit would send them His light and truth.

2007-10-31 15:16:28 · answer #8 · answered by Acorn 7 · 9 1

Heck, I saw a question a few days ago wondering if pets could be "saved". So I guess it depends largely on who's defining the word.

2007-10-31 15:18:20 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 9 1

I'm a lifelong Catholic, and feel that we're all going to be rather surprised at who ends up in Paradise. Yes, I feel that Protestants (and others) can definitely be "saved".

2007-10-31 15:19:13 · answer #10 · answered by solarius 7 · 9 1

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