For all you history buffs who think the Bible is false and Jesus is fake do your research?

Question

You will find he did exist and the other prophets were real as well anyone agree?

Answer 1

Do you see the answer you got from alucard8? Do you see that there are some people who hate the truth so much that they are willing put put all their faith in opinions of certain historians without balancing it with other opinions?

Those who do that are not really history buffs, though they might think they are. They are actually revisionists. They are not comfortable and will not believe any other opinion on what happened in history if it has to support what the Bible says. Instead they take the word of anyone contrary to the Bible so that they may feel supported in their hatred of God.

I am not a historian, but I have read secular views on what happened in history. Sometimes they admit to some pretty amazing things. I find that a good historian will be objective in their presentation of history. They will expose the reader to different views and then tell you what they believe actually happened and why. People like alucard8 will only believe what they want to believe, and opinions must be contrary to the Bible - or they are not true to such a person.

I believe that the Bible is true, and that Jesus did just what the Bible shows, but not only that, but it also shows what a genius God is.

Answer 2

What is your research? We we would all be happy to hear it and do the investigative work.

If it is: Flavius Josephus - He was a devote Jew and had very little to say in his writings. They are known to be fraudulent.

Lucian of Samosate : ; c. A.D. 125 – after A.D. 180) was an Assyrian rhetorician,[1] and satirist who wrote in the Greek language. He is noted for his witty and scoffing nature. Lots of fun to read.

Suetonius: He lived in 120 AD - He would of only heard stories He actually thought there was a Crestos [not a Christ] in Rome in 49 AD

Pliny the Younger: He was vague in his writings. Not considered evidence.

Tertillian and Thallis. Not considered as evidence in the scholastic world.

So here we have six writings or writers. SIX. I cite the best known ones and the ones the theologians like to use. You would think an occurrence such as this rising from the dead would be the biggest news ever - especially under the circumstances. Very little evidence and proof? Minimal at best. Of all the historians and writers of the time said nothing about this Jesus person. NOTHING!

But alas, there were actually lots of saviors - IE: Apollo, Attis, Horus, Marduk, Mithra and many more. They were saviors who rose from the dead to come back after three days. All blood sacrifices from a god who lived above the clouds.

Answer 3

I don't agree -
Not all the bible is false, some parts did happen.
Jesus was not fake, he lived and died on the cross.
some of the prophets were real people, some were mythical, and some were several people who later "became" one person, through the whims of the editors.

Answer 4

There is Noah's Ark, the large wooden barge on Mt Ararat exactly where the Bible states it is.

In the Cairo Museum there are plaques which show a man in a chariot looking back at water reaching out to engulf him.

Another depicts a multitude of people fleeing just along the path the Bible says the Exodus was.

Believing in these things, going to Heaven and reunited with my loved ones to me makes sense from a God who sent His perfect Son(self) to atone for our sins He knew we would need. PTL!

Answer 5

wow,

way to grow up with tunnel vision.

first off, there are historical aspects of the bible that are true, just as there are historical aspects of the iliad that are true.

but do you really believe that Athena kept fetching achillies' spear and returning it to him when he missed during his duel with hector?

there is mention of jesus in sources other than the bible or christian sources, this would tend to indicate that jesus did exist, although there is argument that these sources too are not entirely credible- I have done my research.

same with other events of the bible.

you cannot take its writing literally, merely as a re-telling of a story with a fantasy slant on it.

some stories might be completely made up, and others modified tales much like the way we have modified the story of king arthur from what is believed to be a celtic warlord fighting the saxon invasion of britain (among the more believeable basis for the story)*, or robin hood from a name that bandits used to just take over the course of many years to gain infamy, to assigning a "noble cause" and heroism to the story and an evil "antagonist" king, written in to insult a real but unpopular english king.

*actually the most credible version is the one found in the documentary "monty python and the holy grail".
9/10 famous historians agree with that fact, the only hold out was dealt with during the course of the making of the documentry.

Answer 6

Agree

Answer 7

There are no links historically outside of the bible, plus there are no records of Moses and his tribe escaping Egypt either.

http://www.gerald-massey.org.uk/massey/dpr_01_historical_jesus.htm

In fact there is very little evidence historically to back anything in the bible.


So my answer would be 'no', do you have have some research or evidence to back up your claim. As an academic, I would be interested in seeing it.

Sorry spareo, but that 'Ark' has yet to be proven or disproved as scientists have not been permitted by the Turkish government to assess the site.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah's_Ark

Answer 8

yes, Jesus was a real person, and the Israelites where a historical people, and I'm sure the prophets are based on people who existed

this could be said for a lot of religions, so what is your point?

Answer 9

Oh, I have never disagreed that Jesus was real. I just don't think he was the son of God. And I think the Bible was written by a bunch of people who thought that he was.

Answer 10

no i dont agree.

theres no writings from the time of jesus. someone will bring josephus into the discussion somewhere so ill refute that one now.

the supposed writtings of jesus from josephus were 4 century forgeries.

also the NT has major historical accounts wrong, such as.

augustus' census (never happened during jesus birth)
slaughter of the innocence (no historical proof)
quirinias being govenor of syria (didnt happen til 6AD)

and thats just the birth of your supposed saviour. believe me theres a buttload more