Was the Earth actually flat before Galileo?

Question

Creationists/Intelligent Design advocates (same thing) argue that, because science hasn't found out how life actually started, a big invisible monster must have done it. By this logic, before Galileo worked out, through his experiments, that the Earth wasn't really flat, it must have been flat before he discovered it wasn't because science hadn't found out it wasn't flat. The moon also must have been made out of cheese at one stage.

Any IDers care to discredit my argument?

death from above: Okay I'll grant that - point for you.
elliebear: Well I thought it was 5 points well spent. Do you care to elaborate?

Acid: sorry it doesn't discredit my argument, it merely changes the timeframe from Galileo to Muhammad. Before Muhammad the Earth must have been flat.

Sam T: I have a great concave banana shaped earth hypothesis too.

Davinci22: Yes there is a conspiracy, and we are out to get you.

Cica: Have you finished your coffee yet? Hurry up! I'm waiting for your great revelation!

Answer 1

Hmm... I think I see where you're going with this. When you bring the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle into the equation, you could say that the shape of the Earth before Galileo occupied any number of possible shapes before the discovery collapsed the wave function, rendering the world flat.

Yes, I see that if you unreduce Planck's constant where Δx, Δy, and Δz are the standard deviations representing "flat," "banana," and "Tuesday," it is possible that earth wasn't just flat, it existed as an after thought of a cat some jerk named Schrödinger had put in a box.

Answer 2

How do you think you would have felt if you were never told or educated on the topic of evolution, but only on the topic of creation? Why do you think women in the East cover their body from head to toes? They even play volleyball in the Internationals with a cloth cover under the shorts from head to toes, while the men are in t-shirts watching the game.

That is called indoctrination, Jesus said, "Look and you shall find", He gave good advices for better life and a better world. He did not indoctrinate.

It has been the others who indoctrinate, Catholics know the evolution process managed by God to evolve creatures in their own kinds and trees is included in Genesis in its own words.

But still they fail to explain and just teach separate evolution in the Catholic Schools. They all knew Galileo was right, all the stars look round, but you know indoctrination has more power.

So What is the argument, we are equipped with a brain to use it!
But instead of analysing what is Godly and divine we just keep quoting one fool after the other.

"bla bla bla" (this philosopher man), "bla bla bla" (this scientist man, this religious woman), "bla bla bla"(this president)

What about the content! Are we making an unbiased opinion? or it is just indoctrination. Did you know you pay for Television while television is used to program the weak minds?.

When you watch television, or even hear a song, can you put aside what is programing? Can you remain the same without attachments?

I Honor the man who gives me his own quotes, because that is the man he is.

EDIT:
Thanks for the warnig! I will hide under the flat Earth! lol lol

Answer 3

It wasn't the creationis/intelligent design in general who teaches that the world was flat. It was the Catholic pope then who find a way to shut up Galileo because it didn't conformed to his worldview. Are you assuming the world evolved from flat to spherical (ty to the person below me)? I must give you some pointers for having an original thought. *winks*
Some believe it was flat, some believe it wasn't till someone else found out it wasn't. Maybe back then they also thought that river waters has fallen to the edges of the world when it dries up...who knows.

Answer 4

I agree with your perspective completely, but I'm afraid it's a common myth that people believed the earth to be flat before Galileo. Perhaps totally uneducated individuals, but not anyone educated.

"Columbus sailed off with one part courage and two parts madness to sail around a spherical world. Every educated person knew the world was round, of course. This flat world stuff is pure baloney. Someone cooked up the myth that we all thought Earth was flat during the 19th century."

Source: http://www.uh.edu/engines/astron.htm

Answer 5

Nice argument.

Just to show that even in Jesus' time the thinking was that the world was flat. When Jesus was tempted by the Devil the devil took him up a high mountain and showd Jesus all the kingdoms of the world and offered them to him. Now Jesus could only see all the kingdoms of the world from a high mountain if the earth was flat. Regardless of how high the mountain is he could never see all kingdoms of the world if the earth was round.

Answer 6

The laws of quantum physics demand that somewhere, someplace, in some dimensional parallel universe... the moon is made of cheese.

...and furthermore, im not too convinced the world isnt flat either.

Answer 7

the Greeks Pythagoras and Aristotle figured out the earth was spherical in 500 BC - 350 BC. before the bible and definitely before islam even existed

Answer 8

The earth was flat,had four corners, sat on four pillars and the sun revolved around it.

" Even without benefit of eyesight he said: And yet it moves still"

Answer 9

no i like your argument just fine

one thing NO one ever talks about is HOW god created these things.

Creationists are quick to poke holes in the details of other theories yet their own theory of creation actually contains nothing to debate.

if you taught a class on creationism, 3 hours a week, 14 weeks, what the heck would you teach? unless the class was about how everything else is wrong, creationism, basically has nothing to say for itself.

Answer 10

It probably was flat but I doubt that the moon was made out of cheese