English Deutsch Français Italiano Español Português 繁體中文 Bahasa Indonesia Tiếng Việt ภาษาไทย
All categories

Doesn't the following say Jesus is better than any angel? Doesn't verse 5 ask to which of the angels did God ever say He would be a father to? Aren't all angels commanded to worship Jesus? Is Jesus is an angel then wouldn't He have been commanded to worship Himself? How does that make sense?

Hebrews 1:4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

2007-10-29 15:13:20 · 4 answers · asked by Bible warrior 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Aquila - read the verse. It is obvious that He never said this to any angel. And actually JW's can't prove Jesus is Michael because it is not true.

2007-10-29 15:53:58 · update #1

Moises_Frias - It doesn't matter which type of angel you want to call Him. These verses are clear that He is not and never was an angel.

2007-10-29 15:55:16 · update #2

4 answers

Jesus is certainly above the angels, as the Bible states.

As for the person who answered saying we pick and choose scripture, um, that would be the Catholics, JW's, etc. Not we "fundies" as you like to call us. For us, it is the full Gospel. We honor the scripture that isn't easy as well. Believe me, God's changes in me to take from a equal rights, career woman to a Godly wife and mother, and my husband as head of our home was certainly not easy. LOL None the less, I have never had such peace and joy.

God bless.

2007-10-29 15:33:13 · answer #1 · answered by lovinghelpertojoe 3 · 0 0

You said: "Doesn't verse 5 ask to which of the angels did God ever say He would be a father to?"'

This implies that Jesus was an angel.

I'm no Christian but JW's can use the bible to demonstrate that Jesus was an angel (Michael actually). That's the problem with you Christians, you pick & choose verses to make it say what you want. All denominations do this.

2007-10-29 15:22:49 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

(Hebrews 1:4-6) So he has become better than the angels, to the extent that he has inherited a name more excellent than theirs. 5 For example, to which one of the angels did he ever say: “You are my son; I, today, I have become your father”? And again: “I myself shall become his father, and he himself will become my son”? 6 But when he again brings his Firstborn into the inhabited earth, he says: “And let all God’s angels do obeisance to him.”

Why does Hebrews 1:10-12 quote Psalm 102:25-27 and apply it to the Son, when the psalm says that it is addressed to God? Because the Son is the one through whom God performed the creative works there described by the psalmist. (See Colossians 1:15, 16; Proverbs 8:22, 27-30.) It should be observed in Hebrews 1:5b that a quotation is made from 2 Samuel 7:14 and applied to the Son of God. Although that text had its first application to Solomon, the later application of it to Jesus Christ does not mean that Solomon and Jesus are the same. Jesus is “greater than Solomon” and carries out a work foreshadowed by Solomon.—Luke 11:31.

Does Hebrews 1:6 refer to the second coming of Jesus?

Though some Bible translations render this verse in a way that obscures the fact, there is good reason to understand this verse as referring to Christ’s second coming.

In Hebrews chapter 1 the apostle Paul drew attention to Jesus’ superiority over the angels. In this regard verses 5 and 6 contain three quotations from the Hebrew Scriptures, which Paul applies to Jesus. As you read Hebrews 1:5, 6, note in particular the two occurrences of the word “again”:

“For example, to which one of the angels did he [Jehovah God] ever say: ‘You are my son; I, today, I have become your father’? And again: ‘I myself shall become his father, and he himself will become my son’? But when he again brings his Firstborn into the inhabited earth, he says: ‘And let all God’s angels do obeisance to [or, worship] him.’”—Hebrews 1:5, 6.

In verse 5 Paul first quoted what God said in Psalm 2:7. Then Paul wrote “and again” before giving a second quotation (2 Samuel 7:14) and applying it to the Messiah, Jesus. But now consider verse 6, where the word “again” (Greek, palin) occurs also.

Was “again” used in verse 6 just to introduce a third quotation in a series? For instance, a person might write, ‘John contacted her by letter. Again, by telephone. And again, by telegraph.’ Is that all that Paul was doing in verse 6 when he used “again” and quoted Psalm 97:7 from the Greek Septuagint Version?

Some Bible translators have rendered Hebrews 1:6 this way. For example, The Jerusalem Bible reads: “Again, when he brings the First-born into the world.” Other translations render it similarly, even though doing so means taking “again” out of its natural order, for the Greek literally reads: “Whenever but again he should lead in the Firstborn (one).”

Appreciating the grammatical aspect, Dr. C. B. Moll comments: “The usage of our Epistle does not allow us to transpose palin [“again”] and make it the introduction of a citation . . . The language refers to the second introduction—yet in the future—of the First-born into the world.” Similarly, in his work The Epistle to the Hebrews, Dr. B. F. Westcott observes that “again” is more naturally understood to connect with what follows it. He also mentions that Paul had already (verse 2) spoken about Jesus’ first coming, as a man. So Dr. Westcott says “that there was good reason why [in verse 6] the writer should point forward specially to the Return in which Messiah’s work was to be consummated.”

Hence, Hebrews 1:6 is to be understood as pointing forward to the time when the glorified Jesus would again come or give special attention to the world of mankind. This is how the verse is rendered in the New World Translation and the American Standard Version, as well as the translations by R. Young and J. B. Rotherham. Dr. Edgar J. Goodspeed’s translation is even more explicit in showing that this text applies to Christ’s second coming. It renders Hebrews 1:6: “But of the time when he is to bring his firstborn Son back to the world he says, ‘And let all God’s angels bow before him.’”

2007-10-29 15:37:19 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

an Archangel is better than an angel is the most powerful angel. is like compare a secretary of Defense with a low level soldier, both are soldiers but the power of the first is by far greater.

The bible says it is an angel despite of your believe

2007-10-29 15:30:17 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

fedest.com, questions and answers