No they can't, cuz it's not true.
2007-10-29 08:57:42
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answered by justmenothinelse 5
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Jesus is different than all the other angels, although he being the Chief of Angels(Archangel), he is also the ONLY-BEGOTTEN SON of God. The rest of creation are created through Jesus. Jesus is also the Christ,the Word and our Lord.
Now, regarding Jesus as the Archangel. Please notice these Bible texts.
However, the friend of the bridegroom, when he stands and hears him, has a great deal of joy on account of the voice of the bridegroom. John 3:29 – Who owns the voice of the bridegroom? And the one who owns the voice of the bridegroom is the bridegroom himself, isn’t he?
1 The 4:16 states “because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first.”
Who has the voice of an archangel who have a commanding call and when the dead hears that archangel’s voice that they in turn was raised up in union with Christ? The owner of that archangel’s voice is Jesus.
Just like in John 3:29 , the one with the voice of the bridegroom is the bridegroom himself, so in 1 The 4:16 the one with the voice of the archangel who can raise the dead, is also an archangel.
Just think of this, if Jesus can be a human, why can’t he be the archangel which means Chief of Angels.
(Job 38:4,7) When [Jehovah] founded the earth... When the morning STARs [or "angels"] joyfully cried out together, And all the sons of God began shouting in applause
(Revelation 22:16) I, Jesus... I am the root and the offspring of David, and the BRIGHT morning STAR.
2007-10-29 09:07:43
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answer #2
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answered by trustdell1 3
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Yes
Jehovah's Witnesses do happen to believe that Michael is Jesus, but the idea is hardly central to their faith.
It is just that a child can recognize what the bible says about the idea...
Is not Jesus Christ the primary "Seed" who defeats Satan? The Millennial Rule begins with Satan's abyssing, performed by Christ Jesus, and no mere subsidiary. Thus, when Revelation 12:7-9 tells us that "Michael" performs this work, Jehovah's Witnesses are convinced that "Michael" is simply another name for Jesus, just as "Immanuel", "Sprout", "David", and "The Word" are additional names of Jesus (see Matt 1:23 ["Immanuel"]; Zech 6:12 ["Sprout", "Branch", or "Shoot"]; Ezek 37:24,25 ["David"]; Rev 19:13 ["The Word of God"]).
(Genesis 3:15) He [the Seed of God's woman] will bruise you [the original serpent Satan] in the head
(Revelation 12:7-9) Michael and his angels battled with the dragon... So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan
(Revelation 20:1-3) And I saw an angel... And he seized the dragon, the original serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. And he hurled him into the abyss
(Revelation 20:6-7) Rule as kings with [Christ] for the thousand years.
Almost comically, the same trinitarians who insist that Jesus cannot have another name are the same persons who pretend that Jesus is also called Jehovah.
While anti-Witnesses pretend that Jehovah's Witnesses rely upon one Scripture for the belief that Jesus is the archangel Michael, that passage (1 Thes 4:14-16) is simply the easiest, most concise demonstration of the fact.
...(1 Thessalonians 4:14-16) Jesus died and rose again, so, too... the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel's voice
Learn more:
http://watchtower.co.uk/e/ti/index.htm?article=article_05.htm
http://watchtower.co.uk/e/rq/index.htm?article=article_03.htm
http://watchtower.co.uk/e/dg/index.htm?article=article_03.htm
http://watchtower.co.uk/e/lmn/index.htm?article=article_04.htm
2007-10-29 09:14:34
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answer #3
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answered by achtung_heiss 7
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I will show not one but several
first John 3:16 says that God sent his son... which one?
cause all angels are sons of God according to Job 1:6 , 2:1 and 38:4-7. so if Jesus is a Son of God then he could be an angel.
But this is just the begining
all the sons of God are called gods in Psalms 82:1 and 82:6
so all the sons of God almighty are gods then all angels can be called gods.
Jesus is the firstson of >God according to Colossian 1:15-17. so he can be the first angel of God.
I am not finished Yet
Why the bible declare that the voice of Jesus Christ is the voice of Archangel?
If you are a man the more logical conclusion is that your voice is the voice of a man . isn´t it logic? and if not why not?
why the bible called angel of covenant that God almighty will sent in Malachi 3:1? in some bible changed the word to messenger but I have seen that the original word was angel i can show you if you give me a fax number to sent you a copy.
Why the bible in Hebrew 1:5 says that Jesus was among the angels? if he is not an angel (the most powerful) why he was with them?
why the bible describe a powerful angel in Revelation 10:1-3 that match in every single detail with Jesus Chirst?
Why the bible says that a great prince called Michael (Jesus is called Prince also in Isaiah 9:6) will bring a great tribulation and will resurrect people from the dead if only we see in the bible that Jesus Chrsit is the one that does such knid of things?
why Jesus Chirst told about himself that he is an star in Revelation 22 when the bible call stars to all angels in Job 38:7?
there are many why that you have to explain us if that is false and if you can´t explain it then we keep the one that is more accurate according to the bible.
JOHNNY: that angel that you mentioned was the firstson of God (Michael) the one that he sent to earth 15 Tishri of Second Year before C.E.
2007-10-29 08:57:56
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answer #4
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answered by Anonymous
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The 12th chapter of Revelation depicts Michael the archangel leading all of God's heavenly sons, angels, into battle against the Devil and his angels. A question reasoning people naturally ask is where is Christ in that scene?
Elsewhere in scripture, Michael, or an un-named archangel, is described as doing things that are Christ's exclusive privilege.
For example, a series of visions in Daniel portray the succession of world powers leading up to the establishment of Jehovah's heavenly kingdom. Daniel 2:44 foretells that God's kingdom will conquer man's kingdom.
The 7th chapter of Daniel reveals that the kingdom is given to someone called the Son of man and the holy ones. In the 8th chapter, the kingdom is given to someone called the Prince of princes and the holy ones. In the last chapter the king of the north is vanquished by Michael, who stands up to defend God's people. It is evident by these parallel prophecies that the Son of man, the Prince of princes and Michael are one and the same—Jesus Christ.
As for Hebrews 1:13, the point Paul was making is that Jehovah did not give the kingdom to any angel. He gave it to a man. The point at which the prophecy was fulfilled, whereby Jehovah claimed Christ as his son, was when Jesus was baptized.
2007-10-30 03:06:36
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answered by keiichi 6
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At 1 Thessalonians 4:16 (RS), the command of Jesus Christ for the resurrection to begin is described as “the archangel’s call,” and Jude 9 says that the archangel is Michael. Would it be appropriate to liken Jesus’ commanding call to that of someone lesser in authority? Reasonably, then, the archangel Michael is Jesus Christ. (Interestingly, the expression “archangel” is never found in the plural in the Scriptures, thus implying that there is only one.)
Revelation 12:7-12 says that Michael and his angels would war against Satan and hurl him and his wicked angels out of heaven in connection with the conferring of kingly authority on Christ. Jesus is later depicted as leading the armies of heaven in war against the nations of the world. (Rev. 19:11-16) Is it not reasonable that Jesus would also be the one to take action against the one he described as “ruler of this world,” Satan the Devil? (John 12:31) Daniel 12:1 (RS) associates the ‘standing up of Michael’ to act with authority with “a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time.” That would certainly fit the experience of the nations when Christ as heavenly executioner takes action against them. So the evidence indicates that the Son of God was known as Michael before he came to earth and is known also by that name since his return to heaven where he resides as the glorified spirit Son of God.
2007-10-29 08:59:11
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answer #6
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answered by Anonymous
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Look at verse 10.
Revelations 1:11
1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: 2 And she being with child, cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. 3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold, a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. 4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to be delivered, to devour her child as soon as it was born. 5 And she brought forth a male child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up to God, and [to] his throne. 6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared by God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred [and] sixty days. 7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out upon the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, who accused them before our God day and night. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives to the death.
2007-10-29 09:05:12
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answer #7
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answered by Anonymous
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If you are looking for a verse that says something like "and Michael the Archangel became Jesus" you will not find it as its not there.
more later
2007-10-30 04:12:57
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answer #8
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answered by WhatIf 4
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I am not a JW but they are trying to demonstrate that Jesus is just an angel or servant and was not God on Earth
In fact their bible written in the 1950's which is part of the New world order, infact it's called the new world translation
has every aspect of the Jesus as God removed
Michael was God's first creation
his son
But the word Michael means he who is as God is
so If jesus is just a servant or angel, why did God originally name him He who is as God is
Michael is unlike all the other angels, as he is the angel of the Lord
You don't bow before angels, when John visited Gabriel he tried to Bow but Gabriel stops him, Mary did not bow to gabriel, and neither did Daniel
But when Joshua is about to fight the battle of Jericho, The angel of the Lord appears before him
and Joshua does bow
Joshua 5:13
13And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, behold, there stood a man over against him with his sword drawn in his hand: and Joshua went unto him, and said unto him, Art thou for us, or for our adversaries?
14And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my Lord unto his servant?
15And the captain of the LORD's host said unto Joshua, Loose thy shoe from off thy foot; for the place whereon thou standest is holy. And Joshua did so.
Why does Joshua bow before an angel?
Who is that angel?
and why did Joshua bow to him?
Lets look at the account of moses:
2And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.
3And Moses said, I will now turn aside, and see this great sight, why the bush is not burnt.
4And when the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, Here am I.
The angel of the Lord is God.
So the questuion is not Jesus is not God because he is an angel.
The question is what's so special about the angle of the Lord?
Jesus tells the apostles, I saw Satan fall from Heaven like a lightning bolt, how could he have seen this?
it's because he was there
The name of Jesus cahnges 3 in the bible
orginally Michael - He who is as God is
Before he came to Earth but his coming was prophesized
he is called Emanuel meaning God is with us
and finalyl he is called Jesus or Yeshua meaning Saviour
see how his name changes according to his role
The JW's use this information to convince you that Jesus is merely an angel
nothing mere about it
Jesus is God the son
Jesus wAs God on Earth
Jesus is the angel of the Lord,
God the Father, God the Son, God the holy spirit
The book of revelations talks about the mark of the beast
trhose lamb and accpet the beast
The new world order which has been in conception over 200 years is about refusing Jesus as saviour and living in a new owrld under the devils deception, what the devil had always wanted
look at the back of a dollar bill and see the words in latin
annuit coeptis novo ordo seclurum
meaning a new begining new world order
is it any wonder that JW orignated from america
attempting to further this new world order with a bible called the new world translation?
2007-10-29 09:12:02
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answered by Anonymous
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There is more evidence in the bible showing Jesus is the Arch Angel Michael than there is showing Jesus is equal to his God and Father.
Please note that the context “of” is the same as “his God and Father”.
Please note that the context always makes the God and Father separate from Lord Jesus.
(John 17:3) 3 This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.
(Romans 15:5-6) 5 Now may the God who supplies endurance and comfort grant YOU to have among yourselves the same mental attitude that Christ Jesus had, 6 that with one accord YOU may with one mouth glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
(1 Corinthians 15:24) 24 Next, the end, when he hands over the kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power.
(2 Corinthians 1:3) 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of tender mercies and the God of all comfort,
(2 Corinthians 11:31) 31 The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, even the One who is to be praised forever, knows I am not lying.
(Galatians 1:3-5) 3 May YOU have undeserved kindness and peace from God our Father and [the] Lord Jesus Christ. 4 He gave himself for our sins that he might deliver us from the present wicked system of things according to the will of our God and Father, 5 to whom be the glory forever and ever. Amen.
(Ephesians 1:3) 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, for he has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in union with Christ,
(Ephesians 1:17) 17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give YOU a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the accurate knowledge of him;
(Ephesians 4:6) 6 one God and Father of all [persons], who is over all and through all and in all.
(Ephesians 5:20) 20 in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ giving thanks always for all things to our God and Father.
(Philippians 4:20) 20 Now to our God and Father be the glory forever and ever. Amen.
(1 Thessalonians 1:3-4) 3 for we bear incessantly in mind YOUR faithful work and [your] loving labor and [your] endurance due to [your] hope in our Lord Jesus Christ before our God and Father. 4 For we know, brothers loved by God, his choosing of YOU,
(1 Thessalonians 3:11-13) 11 Now may our God and Father himself and our Lord Jesus direct our way prosperously to YOU. 12 Moreover, may the Lord cause YOU to increase, yes, make YOU abound, in love to one another and to all, even as we also do to YOU; 13 to the end that he may make YOUR hearts firm, unblamable in holiness before our God and Father at the presence of our Lord Jesus with all his holy ones.
(James 1:27) 27 The form of worship that is clean and undefiled from the standpoint of our God and Father is this: to look after orphans and widows in their tribulation, and to keep oneself without spot from the world.
(1 Peter 1:3-4) 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, for according to his great mercy he gave us a new birth to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 to an incorruptible and undefiled and unfading inheritance. It is reserved in the heavens for YOU,
(Revelation 1:5-6) 1 A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place. And he sent forth his angel and presented [it] in signs through him to his slave John, 5 . . .To him that loves us and that loosed us from our sins by means of his own blood— 6 and he made us to be a kingdom, priests to his God and Father—yes, to him be the glory and the might forever. Amen.
Even after Jesus is Glorified and in heaven, he continues to worship and serve his God and Father.
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2007-11-02 10:06:58
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answer #10
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answered by TeeM 7
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