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How could three Be one? Mathematical Error or something else?

Now who decides whether it showd rain or snow or shine in the Sky? Who decides whether one should be forgiven or not? What if there is a difference of opinion? How is the matter solved?

Look this Question is posted to know how to Explain Trinity and all that is related with it...some are mentioned above

2007-10-29 04:22:48 · 17 answers · asked by answers 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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trinity is nothing but a fake statement made by the christans and they dont even have a proof of it.The word trinity is not there in any bible. It is in quran “They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity, for there is no god except One God” (Quran 5:73)

2007-10-29 04:28:56 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

Nicene Orthodoxy

1. The orthodox response to Arianism was to affirm that Christ as Logos is properly the object of our worship, insisting that he is God at the same level and of the same nature as the Father.
2. Orthodoxy eventually rallied around the teaching of the Council of Nicaea (325 A.D.) which defines Christ as eternally generated, begotten not created, and (the crucial new non-Biblical phrase) having “the same essence” (homo-ousios) as the Father.
3. This phrase makes it clear that the Logos is not a created thing, but is God in the same sense and at the same level as God the Father.
4. The phrase rules out subordinationism as well as Arianism, and therefore was widely resisted—because Origenist subordinationism, unlike Arianism, was a respected position among Christian intellectuals of the time.
5. Ruling out subordinationism meant abandoning the Neoplatonist scheme of mediation (where one or more levels of being intervene and mediate between the One First Principle to the visible world) and replacing it with a sharp Biblical dichotomy: everything that exists is either God the Creator or something God created.

The Trinity: One God
1. For orthodox Christians, Christ as Logos belongs on Creator side of creature/Creator distinction.
2. Hence the question arises: doesn’t that make two Creators, and thus two Gods—three, when you add the Holy Spirit?
3. No (the orthodox Church Fathers answered) for unlike three human beings, the Trinity has only one will and action.

The Trinity: Three Persons
1. Now another question arises: if there are not three Gods, then three what?
2. To answer in Greek: 3 hypostases or complete individual beings.
3. To answer in Latin: 3 persons (personae)—which in ancient usage does not mean souls or consciousnesses but roles in a drama.
4. The three persons are differentiated by their interrelations: e.g., the Son is begotten by the Father and the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father.
5. Hence the Father is not the Son (Logos) and the Son (Logos) is not the Holy Spirit—even though each one of them is God, and there is only one God.

Christology: the Status of Christ’s humanity

Christology: the Doctrine about the Person of Christ

1. Crucial issues of Christology arise after the Council of Nicaea sets forth the orthodox doctrine of the Trinity.
2. The crucial Christological question after Nicaea is: how is the eternal Logos related to the man Jesus?
3. The key Biblical text in this regard is John 1:14, “And the Logos became flesh.”

2007-10-29 06:19:56 · answer #2 · answered by Tricia R 5 · 0 0

Jehovah's Witnesses are Christians. Jehovah's Witnesses believe Jesus is god but only context that Bible only. The term “God” Read – (1 Corinthians 8:4-6)
– Angels – Psalm 8:5 (KJV and Douay-Rheims render the Biblical Hebrew Me-ʼelohim)
– Jehovah – Isaiah 37:20.
– Moses – Exodus 4:16; 7:1.
– Satan – 2 Corinthians 4:4.
Context is important!

Contrary to what most claim Jehovah's Witnesses have INTENSE LOVE for JESUS. They genuinely thrive to imitate him including not getting to earth's political affairs and fighting in wars, risking their lives for their spiritual family, etc.

There's plenty of opportunities Almighty God could have inspired the writers to God is three-in-one yet never did that happen rather proof the opposite. The pagans loved the idea of god-incarnates and reincarnation and so forth.

Jesus and Jehovah are separate and it's really commendable you are searching. The fact that you were compelled to asked this question shows you had given thought to spiritual matters and concerns. If you think about it though too for a moment, if the trinity were true we should expect to find it clearly defined in the Bible. Something as important as who Jehovah God and who His Spirit-Anointed son Christ Jesus are and are not and their natures and additional what God's Holy Spirit/active force are to be logically clearly stated not ambiguous stated. For example God hates stealing and plainly states it; He is direct on important issues why would he change (Malachi 3:6)


– 1) Christ Jesus is also not the same as the holy spirit (Matthew 12:31, 32; Luke 3:22)

– 2) Jesus was the Anointed one (anointed with Jehovah's holy spirit) and was spoken of it as separate.

– 3) Additionally, it is very important too to understand the meaning of context of terms like "God" – (John 10:34-36; Exodus 7:1; Psalm 82:6; 1 Corinthians 8:5, 6). E.g., consider the Bible describes even Satan as "god of this system" (2 Corinthians 4:4; 1 John 5:19) yet we are commanded not to worship him! He is not the True God. Some also worship their bellies (Philippians 3:19). Context is vital!

– 4) These scriptures show Christ Jesus and Jehovah God – (the Almighty) differ in things like: age, history, knowledge, position and power. That contradicts the very definition of doctrine the Trinity itself, it teaches that Jehovah, Jesus and the holy spirit are equal in all of those aspects. Do not get me wrong Christ Jesus is the 2nd most important person in existence. He is unique and reflects his Father better than anyone else – (Colossians 1:15-20; 2:3; Hebrews 1:1-4) However, the point is that they do differ even which respectfully even Trinitarians usually acknowledge when they referring to Christ Jesus as the second person of trinity, or “the son” (submissive to his Father).

The two natures doctrine with all due respect does not fix the holes in the trinity doctrine either. Yes they two Natures as they, Jehovah doesn't – they very notion only adds weight there are differents. The scriptures in the Bible even after Jesus' death still show his submission & cooperation to His Heavenly Father Jehovah God. The two natures attempted to fix the holes is grasping for straws; even to those to hold to the belief must ask themselves how are they different?


– Scriptures after Christ Jesus was resurrected: (Acts 3:13, 26; 4:24-30; Hebrews 5:5, 8; 1 Corinthians 3:23; 8:6; 11:3; 15:24-28; Galatians 3:20; Ephesians 1:3; Philippians 2:9; 1 Peter 1:21; 1 John 4:12; Revelation 1:1, 2; 3:12, 14)

– Compare scriptures while Christ Jesus was on earth: Matthew 12:18; 20:20-23, 28; 24:36; 26:39; 28:18 (who gave); Mark 1:9-11; 13:32; Luke 2:52; (Luke 18:18, 19*); 22:42, 43; John 1:18; 5:19, 30; 6:38, 57; 7:16; 8:28; 12:49, 50; 14:28; 16:23; Hebrews 5:7.

– Scriptures prior to Christ Jesus being on the earth: Deuteronomy 6:4 – Compare: Mark 12:29; Isaiah 48:11 (Deuteronomy 6:4; Isaiah 40:28 (Compare: John 4:6); 48:11; Acts 3:13, 26; 4:24-30; Hebrews 2:10; 5:5-8; 1 Corinthians 3:23; 8:6; 11:3; 15:24-28; Matthew 12:18; 20:20-23, 28; 24:36; 26:39; 28:18 (who gave); Mark 12:29; 13:32; Luke 2:52; 22:42, 43; John 1:18; 5:19, 30; 6:38, 57; 7:16; 8:28; 12:49, 50; 14:28; 16:23; Galatians 3:20; Ephesians 1:3; Philippians 2:9; 1 Peter 1:21; 1 John 4:12; Revelation 1:1, 2; 3:12, 14) Christ's brothers (Hebrews 2:10, 11)

– Tempted (James 1:13 compare Hebrews 4:15)
– Two distinct wills (Luke 22:39-42)
– Who Jesus and the Apostles identified him with – (Matthew 16:16, 17)

2016-02-21 12:48:31 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Nobody can explain the trinity because it is not founded in the Bible! Churches teach it, but they cannot support it. If God and Jesus were one, in what sense is "the Father greater than I" as Jesus stated?

Many claim it is a "mystery" but that doesn't make sense either because of this: 2Ti 3:16-17 All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work. The Bible helps us to understand that we have all the information we need to "set things straight...may be fully competent". There are no mysteries. How can we worship God with "spirit and truth" if we don't understand him or his deity.

If you or anyone were to research the trinity, you'll find this became a church doctrine WELL after Jesus and his apostles died.

Sorry to offend some, but the truth is the truth. Also Jehovah's Witnesses are NOT the only religion to teach that.

2007-10-29 04:41:46 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

I have answered this question many times before...You can look at it in a lot of different ways
1) Egg...shell, yolk, white...all three distinctly different parts of one thing, an egg. The yolk is still all egg as is the white and the shell, but they are three distinct parts of the egg.
2) A person...this describes the phases of the manifestations of the Trinity...I am a daughter, a wife, and a mother...I have different jobs as each of these and some I would never do when acting as another. When I am alone with my husband, I am still a daughter and a mother, but I might do things in that situation that I would never do when acting as a daughter or mother. You can also reverse the situation, there are things that I do as a mother that I would never do as a wife or a daughter.

God the Father was the manifestation that gave us the Law, Jesus Christ was the manifestation that fulfilled the law, the Holy Spirit was left for us after the fulfilling of the law. Notice that the jobs of the three do not overlap indicating that it is one Being in three different positions.

2007-10-29 04:33:01 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

We must first remember that very few have a good idea of what the Trinity is in the first place - hence, accuracy in definition will be very important. The doctrine of the Trinity is simply that there is one eternal being of God - indivisible, infinite. This one being of God is shared by three co-equal, co-eternal persons, the Father, the Son, and the Spirit.

It is necessary here to distinguish between the terms "being" and "person." It would be a contradiction, obviously, to say that there are three beings within one being, or three persons within one person. So what is the difference? We clearly recognize the difference between being and person every day. We recognize what something is, yet we also recognize individuals within a classification. For example, we speak of the "being" of man---human being. A rock has "being"---the being of a rock, as does a cat, a dog, etc. Yet, we also know that there are personal attributes as well. That is, we recognize both "what" and "who" when we talk about a person.

The Bible tells us there are three classifications of personal beings---God, man, and angels. What is personality? The ability to have emotion, will, to express oneself. Rocks cannot speak. Cats cannot think of themselves over against others, and, say, work for the common good of "cat kind." Hence, we are saying that there is one eternal, infinite being of God, shared fully and completely by three persons, Father, Son and Spirit. One what, three who's.

NOTE: We are not saying that the Father is the Son, or the Son the Spirit, or the Spirit the Father. It is very common for people to misunderstand the doctrine as to mean that we are saying Jesus is the Father. The doctrine of the Trinity does not in any way say this!

The three Biblical doctrines that flow directly into the river that is the Trinity are as follows:

1) There is one and only one God, eternal, immutable.

2) There are three eternal Persons described in Scripture - the Father, the Son, and the Spirit. These Persons are never identified with one another - that is, they are carefully differentiated as Persons.

3) The Father, the Son, and the Spirit, are identified as being fully deity---that is, the Bible teaches the Deity of Christ and the Deity of the Holy Spirit.

Hopefully these brief thoughts will be of help to you as you "grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ."

2007-10-29 04:39:05 · answer #6 · answered by ἡ ἐκλογὴ 4 · 0 1

Three biblical examples of the trinity:

1. When Jesus was water baptized. A voice from heaven said, "This is my beloved son in whome I AM well pleased.". And the Holy Spirit came upon Jesus in the form of a dove. Jesus was filled with the Holy Spirit. And was led by the spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil...

2. Matthew28:19 Go ye therefore & teach all nations, baptizing them in the Name of the Father & of the Son & of the Holy Ghost.

3. 1John5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven; the Father, the Word & the Holy Ghost & these three are one.

There is a unity of God that is more unique than what we can understand. They confirm each other & agree in all things. God Is Creator or One Creator. But withouth the Father, or the Word or the Holy Spirit, nothing would have been created.

God is the one who made the seasons. Mankind has free will. And sometimes bad things happen because of mans sin.

2007-10-29 04:34:13 · answer #7 · answered by t_a_m_i_l 6 · 0 3

with christianity, the trinity represents the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit- three aspects of one God yet each one has its own purpose and actions.
You find God the Father working directly with the prophets in the Old Testament,
Jesus the Son of God in the new Testament came down in physical form to die on the cross for the salvation of mankind,
Then there is the Holy Spirit that resides within those that believe in Jesus as saviour to guide, teach, ad work within us to understand the word of God through Divine inspiration given through Him, The Holy Spirit will be here within the children of God- and for sealing those that will be saved until the rapture when the church age is finished. So then He-the Holy Spirit started when Jesus ascended to heaven then the Holy spirit came down- this is the dispensation called the church age then.

2007-10-29 04:34:45 · answer #8 · answered by piscean_psychic7 2 · 1 1

1+1=3. Makes perfect sense don't it ?
What a joke.
Who raise Jesus from hell ? Acts 2:27 ,31 &32
Who did Jesus pray too ? Himself?
No one knows the hour , not the Angels or Jesus.
Jesus words the one who sent me is greater than I
God is the same god who the Jews and Muslims worship as did the Christians until 325AD when the pagan emperior Constine the Great introduced it.
God is the head of Jesus , who is head of the Congregation , who is head of man.

2007-10-29 04:34:00 · answer #9 · answered by an-noy 4 · 0 1

One person.
Three different roles.
I am a father, a son, and a husband.
As a father I have authority.
As a son I have an obligation to obedience.
As a husband I come along side to help.
...but it's all still just me, one person.

Made in God's image, our lives are made up of body, mind, and soul. In God we find those things as:
-God the Father = mind
-Jesus Christ is the physical (body) manifestation of the Father.
-The Holy Spirit is the source of life and function between the two.

2007-10-29 04:30:16 · answer #10 · answered by Bobby Jim 7 · 2 1

"And God created man to his own image" (Gen. 1.27, Douay-Rheims Holy Bible). You and I are of two different persons, but we are of one substance and of the same nature - that of man.

God's judgement of things proceeds not from the human mode of a mere opinion. A word in us - the effect of the conceiving of our intellect - is, according to St. Thomas Aquinas, "not the same as the Word in God." St. Thomas continues in that "in us the word is an accident [an attribute which is not part of the essence]; whereas in God the Word [Jesus Christ] is the same as God, since there is nothing in God that is not of the essence of God. No one would say God has not a Word, because such would make God wholly without knowledge" (Catechetical Instructions, 18-19). God knows and proceeds (through the Holy Ghost, the Will) according to His knowledge undividedly. This unity was shared to man but was shattered when we decided to think and act independently of the Mind and Will of God forgetting that we were mere participants and arrogating a place not our own and can never be our own.

2007-10-29 05:47:59 · answer #11 · answered by Marlowe 2 · 0 1

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