scientists have determined what caused the big bang...?

Question

it's been determined that the creation of the universe was caused by the collision of two other universes. but what formed those universes? someone had to create those two universes, as well as push them together to collide, right?

sorry, i couldn't resist. i just watched this bbc documentary on m-theory. isn't it amazing how smart some people are. it's even more amazing that they can break down what they know simple enough that even i can understand it... if anyone is interested in it check it out.

http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=4526010

fred, i think you missed my sarcasm... hence me saying, "i'm sorry, i couldn't resist."

ahmed, i am. i was being sarcastic about "something having to create the two universes"...

i really wish people would stop saying we have a theory of a god. there is no, i repeat no supporting evidence of a god. it's not a theory, it is an assumption.

Answer 1

I really want to thank you for that link. I love physics. Just when man thinks he has it all worked out he finds an infinite number of new universes to discover.
If man creates his own universe in the lab. would you then agree that a universe could be created by design.
With an infinite number of universes, with an infinite number of physical laws..ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE.

Answer 2

Just remember in this controversy. Until a hypothesis or theory is incontravertiably proved it is not a natural law-it is simply an explanation for the way things work--subject to review and modification. Since the basic assumptions can never be "proved" (at least in our lifetimes)-then the following things are true. We have the big bang theory of creation, and we have the theory of a God. Rigourous proof of either position is not possible--so they still both remain theories--one based in science and mathematics and one in religion.

Answer 3

I think M theory is fascinating, and I've seen a couple of the Science Channel documentaries on it. I enjoyed them very much.

As for who created those two other universes--Why does anyone need to have created them? We'll never know the answer to that question--whether it was God or the collision of other un9iverses

Answer 4

Well the colliding universe theory which I believe is the ekpyrotic model actually posits an eternal universe so the 3-branes would have had to form themselves or simply have always existed in some form - if there was no start to the universe then religious people would lose their (already bad) first mover argument.

M-theory is more of a 'hypothesis' than a theory like relativity, quantum mechanics and evolution, which all accurately predict and explain observable phenomena. The next generation of particle accelerators may provide some tentative evidence.

Answer 5

The science of modern cosmology, observational and theoretical, clearly indicates that, at one point in time, the whole universe was nothing but a cloud of ‘smoke’ (i.e. an opaque highly dense and hot gaseous composition).[1] This is one of the undisputed principles of standard modern cosmology. Scientists now can observe new stars forming out of the remnants of that ‘smoke’ (see figures 1 and 2).The illuminating stars we see at night were, just as was the whole universe, in that ‘smoke’ material. God has said in the Quran:

“Then He turned to the heaven when it was smoke...” (Quran 41:11)

Because the earth and the heavens above (the sun, the moon, stars, planets, galaxies, etc.) have been formed from this same ‘smoke,’ we conclude that the earth and the heavens were one connected entity. Then out of this homogeneous ‘smoke,’ they formed and separated from each other. God has said in the Quran:

“Have not those who disbelieved known that the heavens and the earth were one connected entity, then We separated them?...” (Quran 21:30)

Dr. Alfred Kroner is one of the world’s renowned geologists. He is Professor of Geology and the Chairman of the Department of Geology at the Institute of Geosciences, Johannes Gutenberg University, Mainz, Germany. He said: “Thinking where Muhammad came from . . . I think it is almost impossible that he could have known about things like the common origin of the universe, because scientists have only found out within the last few years, with very complicated and advanced technological methods, that this is the case.”

Also he said: “Somebody who did not know something about nuclear physics fourteen hundred years ago could not, I think, be in a position to find out from his own mind, for instance, that the earth and the heavens had the same origin.”

Answer 6

Not quite 2 other universes as I understand it, more like 2 membranes or "branes". M-Theory or Super String Theory (I think these 2 are equivalent) have allowed mathematicians and cosmologists to roll back past time zero of the big bang. Prior to this theory, they could only get close to time zero. It's looking pretty good as they are using the theory to predict what we should find and those predictions seem to be right on.

Answer 7

They collide because they are undulating membranes. Even our physical laws may not apply in other universes and other dimensions, so the the door is wide open for causes.

It was a great show, though, wasn't it. If you can catch the one on epigenetics, that one's pretty fascinating, too!

(JollyRoger, they haven't gotten back to zero... but mighty close. Like a few milliseconds after zero. Still cool, though!)

Answer 8

M theory is hasn't "determined" anything. It's one of several competing mathematical constructs that can explain how universes materialize. But nothing is for sure, and even the M theorists will tell you that.

However, it is an interesting thought. Some say that universes are created all the time, and that one can create a universe in the laboratory.

Answer 9

Watched several of these programs and had some of the same questions, my understanding is that new universes actually form all the time, new stars are born, die, black holes form and the process is repeated all over again, but this seems to be talking in a time zone of billions and billions of years, is it by chance we are here now, how many planets out there actually could sustain life is that by chance, everyone would like to know, but who really does, God I guess, if you believe in God or a higher force, and then again that opens up many more questions and opinions, which we are all entitled to. Our sun is going to die too, so time will tell, not for us, but hopefully for our future generations.

Answer 10

Good! They had the M-Theory, that means

1. No beginning of time
2. Einstein was wrong on his relativity theory
3. Hawking and Penrose was wrong on calculating that time had a beginning


Oh my goodness! How could a two membranes forced out these huge volume of mass of the universe without God?

Science's crap again...MAD Theory...MAD COW..and MAD COMICS
To believe in God is still the safest thing to do!