Bible experts, please help me out. I cannot find a verse, which says the Bible is the one and only authentic and infallible guide to Christian doctrine and practice.
2007-10-29
01:37:19
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777
2 Timothy 3,16-17 does not say the Bible is the sole infallible guide to Christian doctrine and practice. It says it is 'useful' or 'profitable'. In fact if we go back one verse 1 Timothy 3,15 it says the Church is the pillar and foundation of truth.
2007-10-29
01:47:22 ·
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No 1 home2
Please cite the specific verses you claim to be in the Bible.
2007-10-29
01:49:54 ·
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Hogie
Where in the Bible can we find instructions regarding artificial insemination, cloning, GMO, and host of modern day issues?
2007-10-29
02:09:41 ·
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Of course it's unscriptural. The Catholic Church taught the fullness of truth before the biblical texts were even written, and long before the bishops of the Catholic Church gathered them into a book. The Bible tells us the Church Christ founded is "the pillar and foundation of truth". No structure can stand once removed from its pillars and foundation. The truth cannot stand once removed from the Church Christ founded. the Bible makes no such claim for itself. The only thing the Bible claims for itself is that it is "useful", or "profitable", depending on your translation. If the Bible had never been written, or never been compiled, the Catholic Church would still be teaching the fullness of Christian truth today, just as it has done for 2,000 years. But if the Catholic Church had not existed, there would be no Bible, and no Christianity.
2007-10-29 01:49:41
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answered by PaulCyp 7
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You won't find such a verse, since the Bible did not exist when the books of the Bible were written.
The Bible, as we have it today, was written over many centuries by many writers. It was compiled by the Council of Nicea, centuries after the Apostles died. There were many, many books to choose from, and the compilers had to decide what was scripture and what wasn't. They discarded many, many books that could have been included, but they had a choice to make.
I am sure that the writers of the different books never dreamed that what they wrote would be included in one volume of scripture for millions and millions to read.
2007-10-29 01:50:30
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answered by nymormon 4
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Man,,,,,I have it in my hand so lets see,,,,"It is written" Jn 10:35;, Mk 7:13 Mt4:4 1 Cor 2:13 Look go to http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/sola-srriptura-bible.html THere you will get what you want and this was the Bible's position & the early churches position. Ps.119 160. SO it IS definitely scriptural, any attempt to deny is a LIE!
2007-10-29 01:58:40
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answered by hamoh10 5
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You are actually asking the wrong question; loading the question, as it were.
The real question is, "is there enough information in Scripture for one to come to the understanding they need regarding salvation?"
Yes, there is, and it is called believing the gospel as brought out by the apostles in Acts onward.
What you need to understand is that, anyone who claims that what is related and revealed in the gospel is insufficient to achieve salvation is preaching a false gospel.
The gospel basically states, "here's what is necessary to have eternal life."
A false gospel falsifies the true gospel by saying, "no, that isn't enough, you have to do this and that and the other thing in order to be saved."
Those who redefine the issue by saying ""sola scriptura" isn't in the Bible" are those who put forth a false gospel.
Example?
How bout a certain religious leader claiming that only those who are members of his church can be saved.
There is no shortage of churches that teach this.
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2007-10-29 01:58:05
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answered by Hogie 7
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I use Heb 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
The Bible does this more than any other book, Ever.
777 above me actually does better at proving it. Read his verses.
2007-10-29 01:44:47
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answered by tcjstn 4
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It doesn't exist. The 2 Timothy citation is often thrown around by Prods, in their screaming ignorance, but all it says is that ALL Scripture is valuable. It does NOT say "only" Scripture. Likewise, nowhere within Scripture is it defined what is to be within Scripture. One must violate sola scriptura in order to follow it.
2007-10-29 01:45:21
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answered by Hoosier Daddy 5
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(Jn. 10:35). (Tit. 1:1-3). Mt. 5:17-18f; Jn. 10:35; I Pet. 1:12; I Thess. 2:13; 4:2; II Thess. 2:15; 3:15; I Cor. 14:37).
seriously read each of these within context.
2007-10-29 01:50:27
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answered by sojourning.sarah 2
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Try as you might, you Catholics will not find a place that authorizes your unscriptural beliefs. The truth is, the EARLY church writers DO NOT uphold your errant belief that the RCC teaches the Apostolic traditions in an uncorrupted state: only the LATER writers assert this.
For example, Eusebius wrote about Papias, who was a disciple of John:
"Papias [A.D. 120], who is now mentioned by us, affirms that he received the sayings of the apostles from those who accompanied them, and he, moreover, asserts that he heard in person Aristion and the presbyter John. Accordingly, he mentions them frequently by name, and in his writings gives their traditions [concerning Jesus]. . . . [There are] other passages of his in which he relates some miraculous deeds, stating that he acquired the knowledge of them from tradition" (fragment in Eusebius, Church History 3:39 [A.D. 312]).
YET if you read Papias' writings, you will find the following glaringly absent: infant baptism; Mariology (including her alleged role of "co-redemptrix"); a celebate priesthood; confession to priests; prayer to "saints"; literal transsubstantiation; etc.
2007-10-29 01:54:05
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answered by Suzanne: YPA 7
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It sounds like you haven't actually read the Bible if THAT is your conclusion.
For starters, "All Scripture is God-breathed, as the Spirit of God inspired holy men of old"
Also, "Thy Word is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path".
I could go on and on and on, but the point is that God's Word is holy, it is our path, our direction and our guide. It shows us the mind of God, the fall of man, and the way of salvation.
It warns us that we should not look to any other source besides God, and that we shouldn't put anything as more important than God, or worship anything or any one else.
It tells us that those who give guidance by any other than God are getting their guidance and directions from satan (not those exact words), and we are to avoid them at all cost, and - at least in Biblical days - the Jews (as ordered in their Levitical Law) were to stone such, demonstrating just how evil God considers this kind of thing; furthermore, we are not to seek guidance from the dead.
2007-10-29 01:44:55
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answered by no1home2day 7
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It 's not and never was about a Bible verse. It was Luther's twisted idea because he didn't want to have to listen to the Church. There is no Biblical foundation for that and anyone who says there is, is only interpreting the Bible acording to personal standards.
2007-10-29 01:45:08
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answered by afbdrummer 2
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