Can you give me sources where Ahmadinejad "denies" the historical fact of the Holocaust?

Question

There are some terms that people in Islamic and Western countries should never say to each other, because they confuse and inflame more than they clarify. The most obvious ones would be “jihad”, “crusade” and “great satan”. All of them are used in somewhat innocuous ways by the people who utter them, but mean something completely different – and much more inflammatory – to foreign ears.

When Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad mentioned the "myth of the holocaust" He knew what he meant by the phrase, and I know what he meant, but if he thinks that most people in the West are going to hear it and respond with anything more profound than “Holocaust deniers!” then they are deeply ignorant.

When he “denies” the “myth” of the Holocaust, he is not denying theHolocaust, he's not even duscussing it.

It's all about finding a justification to bring about regime change in Iran.

Or why else did he get misinterpreded?

Answer 1

hi h. long time no see.

here you go:

"Holocaust denial is relatively new to the Middle East, as Kenneth Jacobson, assistant national director of the Anti-Defamation League, said in an interview with Haaretz: "Adopting the theories of Holocaust denial of Western scholars is a relatively new phenomenon in the Muslim world. The accepted attitude had been to say that whereas it was true the Holocaust had taken place, the Palestinians should not have to pay the price. A look at Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's statements shows that he has mixed the two approaches."[56]

In a December 2005 speech, Ahmadinejad said that the Holocaust was a fairy tale that had been promoted to protect Israel, ramping up his rhetoric and triggering a fresh wave of international denunciation. He said,

“ They have fabricated a legend under the name Massacre of the Jews, and they hold it higher than God himself, religion itself and the prophets themselves...(The West) deals very severely with those who deny this myth but does not do anything to those who deny God, religion, and the prophets. ”

He also called for Israel to be relocated to Germany, or Austria, arguing it was these nations that persecuted the Jews, so they ought to bear the responsibility, not Palestinians forsaking their land to form a nation of Israel. He also suggested relocating Israeli Jews to the United States."

Answer 2

you can post a question here, but you don't know how to do a google search??
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4527142.stm
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/12/14/iran.israel/
and many more

denying the holocaust is not an opinion to which someone is entitled. it is a hateful life, at best a mark of utter stupidity. if someone claimed the sun revolves around the earth, would that be an opinion? no, it would just be wrong.
the holocaust is a historical fact.

it's obviously fine to discuss it. there are scholarly conferences on the subject all the time. discussing a subject is not the same as propagandizing your lie that it never happened. that's not a discussion, that's not a conference, that's just a collection of idiots. if the KKK had a meeting where they all talked about slavery never having happened, would you consider that an academic conference?


and if his point is that it happened in europe so why is the jewish state in israel, that's a stupid point.
jews were in the middle east for all of history, since long before islam was even invented. the only independent country to ever exist on the land was the state of israel. they were talking of a modern jewish state there since the 1800's, long before the holocaust. muslims fought many violent wars where they invaded and took over many countries, ruthlesslessly killing all the people there. and the arabs were on the side of the nazis in ww2 anyway. if he wants jews out of israel, then the muslims can leave india and north africa and france and everywhere except the middle east.

jews are willing to live side by side with any people. muslims want to kill (or expel) all non muslims from anywhere they live, even as a minority. obviously that's ridiculous in this day and age.

Answer 3

ELEMENTS,

Why would there be any need for a conference to 'look into this event'?

Surely there is sufficient evidence in the form of Holocaust survivors, the detailed records and notes left by the Nazis themselves, and the soldiers who liberated the camps, not to mention the actual crematoria?

Do tell us, what do you envisage being discussed or investigated at this conference?

Why would anyone need a conference for something that is objective truth, something that has actually happened and is part of history?

Answer 4

He was misinterpreted. Here in America our media has an amazing ability to distort truths. What ahmadinejad really means is that if the Holocaust did exist then why is illegal to debate the issue? Why can't an international convention be opened to look into this event? Remember that across the globe our president Bush refuses to acknowledge the Armenian Holocaust in which 1.5 million people were slaughtered by the Turkish government.

Answer 5

Lets just say for the moment I agree with you. Ahmadinejad was not denying the Holocaust

Irregardless what he did was crass and of poor taste.

To try to say "since the Holocaust happened in Europe the Jewish state should be in Europe"

Not only ignores decades of history, and the Jewish community that was living in what is now Israel, in the 1940's

It is morally repugnant that a person would belittle a genocide to further his political views.

It would be as if I was a Turk and said since Saddam committed genocide against the Kurds We should give have of Iraq to the Kurds and move them all there.

but again I doubt you care what I have to say anyways.

Answer 6

i hope so, because I'm pretty sure the holocaust is real. But then again as I always say, let him say what he wants to say, why do people give a sh*t, I mean I hope people don't want to bomb iran just because they don't like what he said.

Answer 7

I can give you alot of sources - you are kidding right.

Here are some I did from a simple websearch on the subject - I don't know all the sites - but they are all compeling:

BBC http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4527142.stm

Jihadwatch: http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/2005/12/009411print.html

JPost article: http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull&cid=1134309577132

WebIndia article: http://news.webindia123.com/news/Articles/World/20061213/535861.html


If it was one source it would be enough - this man is a hatemonger as is most of the Iranian elite.

Good Luck!!!

Answer 8

Its all the way the media translates farsi to english....to its own benefit....and yes the regime in Iran was changed when the Shah raised the prices of the oil(natural gas)......and now they need to change the regime again....because the new regime is not on its side.....God save all innocent civilians in war....Peace!

Answer 9

The trouble is not regime change they wish for and manipulate!

Look at history, Jews held a contemptuous attitude toward Persia regardless of right or wrong innuendos, Jews ( Zionists and the rest of the Jews) today see Iran the extension of Nabukhethnaser offensive attitude toward Jews and to Evangelist Christians see Iran the bringer of the Armageddon, both are fallacies of extreme racist hate and total charlatans ignorance , respectively!

Answer 10

This subject is a scratch'd record already.

I think the media changed what he said to cause problems, as they normally do.