Creation and the Flood?

Question

wat i would like to know is wat changed on the earth (mountains,land,animals,dinosaurs)
or wat was created by the flood and wat was destroyed by it. How the climate changed. For ex. some people say that because of the flood dinosuars became extinct. Thanks ^^

Answer 1

Because fossilization usually requires large quantities of water, many scientists are starting to think that local flash floods caused them. Creationists of course believe they are better explained by Noah’s worldwide flood. There is all kinds of evidence that extreme flooding causes layers of sediment like we find in the “geologic column.” We can see it in real life and reproduce it with flume experiments.

So what do we find? We find marine organisms in the lower layers and then vertebrates in the higher levels as you go up. Evolutionists say that shows the history of evolution. Creationists say that shows the organisms that could survive longer and were not buried till later in the flood.

And as Scott Huse has said, “In the field every conceivable contradiction to the proposed ideal sequence of the geologic column is found.” They are constantly having to explain away things like:

-The Cambrian explosion (where we have the sudden appearance of all these diverse and fully formed animals in the fossil record, with no evolutionary ancestors).
-Or fossils too low or too high in the geologic column.
-Or polystrate fossils (fossils that extent through several layers of strata).
-Or sedimentary strata found in the wrong stratigraphic order.
-Or missing strata.
-Or thousands of feet of strata that is bent and folded without cracking (which must have happened while it was all still wet).
-Or strata that lacks any erosion features with smooth lines between the layers.
-Or strata that are supposed to be many millions of years apart that are inter-bedded.
-Or out-of-place human artifacts (Cremo and Thompson have done a thorough job of listing some out-of-place artifacts in their book, Forbidden Archeology).
-Or “living fossils” (animals and plants that supposedly lived hundreds of millions of years ago that forgot to evolve and look the same as they do today).

Creationists believe that many and probably most of the fossils we find today were laid down in the flood. Most of the fossil record is the graveyard of the flood. As Ken Ham has said, “If Noah’s flood really did occur, what would you expect to find? Billions of dead things, buried in rock layers, laid down by water, all over the earth.” And guess what we find? Billions of dead things, buried in rock layers, laid down by water, all over the earth.

Let’s think for a second—it takes a lot of sediment to cover a huge dinosaur. And dinosaurs fossils are often found in large bone-beds or dinosaur graveyards, where many dinosaur bones are packed together in a chaotic jumble. These are found in places throughout the whole world. The existence and characteristics of dinosaur graveyards provides strong support for the Genesis Flood. The evolutionists of course have to say these happened in catastrophic local floods.

Fossils don’t come with labels telling you how old they are. So, what about radiometric dating methods—don’t they prove millions of years? Well, these are far from infallible—they are indirect methods based on quite a few assumptions, and evolutionary geologists themselves will often not accept a radiometric date unless they think it’s correct (i.e. it matches what they already believe). There are plenty of scientists who question their accuracy. For instance, the “RATE” project has discovered several striking examples of contradictions in these dating methods. If you want, you can get their book or movie called Thousands...Not Billions and learn about some of their remarkable results. If you do a bit of research, you will find that there is a lot of evidence of radiometric dating not being accurate (like conflicting dates, or dates of millions of years for lava flows that occurred in the past few hundred years or even decades).

Now, many Creationists believe the flood would have drastically changed the climate of the earth (cooler temperatures, more radiation, etc.), and that there was a short ice age after the flood. Some Creationists think the dinosaurs that survived the flood where not able to cope so well in the new environment. They also believe that is the reason why man’s life-span shortened so much after the flood, and why bugs and animals are so much smaller now.

Answer 2

ok now seriously, let's hthink about this...
With the water cycle (water runs from rivers into the ocean then becomes evaporated to form clouds then it rains in the mountains causeing water to run down rivers and back into the ocean only to repeat the cycle again) how could tehre possible be a flood that killed every living being that covered the entire world???

1) there couldn't be enough water to cover over 12000 feet (a mountain) along with filling every single crevice in the entire world. it doesn't make any sense!!!

2) water would evaporate faster than it rained- it's just the rules of climatology.

3) yes there is scientific proof that there were ice caps and glaciers that lasted millions of years but that was long before any human came to being. That was most likely long before most animals came into being as well, beck when the earth was first formed.

Think about it from the scientific side here, there 80% of it can be proven. Christianity cannot be proven.

Answer 3

The extinction of the dinosaurs (ornithischians and some saurichians, modern birds are specialized dinosaurs so they are not fully extinct) came about most likely as a result of a large bolide impact about 65 million years ago (end of Cretaceous). The resulting climate changes led to a mass extinction of a lot of organisms.

The story of creation in Genesis is how Moses understood and conveyed the order in which God created things. 6 days is in no way to be taken literally.

As for the flood, if it did happen (i.e. not an allegory about obedience) it was on a local scale, not global.

Every religion has a story of mass destruction by a god or gods.

Answer 4

The flood may not have been world wide, but where only where God wanted to destroy the ones that were cavorting with the nephilium. The fallen angels came to earth and were seducing women, thus bringing into the world, giants. (like the size of Goliath.) This was not God's plan so he destroyed that area in which this was happening. The dinosaurs did not exist at the time of Noah. They existed in the first earth age, prior to Genesis I. The dinosaurs became extinct in that first age, at the overthrow of Satan, when he rounded up 1/3 of the angels to follow him. God destroyed the first earth age, and it became void. That is how Genesisi I begins, when God recreates the earth.

Answer 5

Creation scientists say that the Grand Canyon was created by the flood.
The climate changed drastically, and because of that the dinos died out.
Before the flood, there was water all around the atmosphere which created a sort of green house effect, much more oxygen in the air so plants grew huge and humans lived healthier and longer.

Answer 6

Nothing was changed by the flood because it didn't happen.

That was easy.

I acutally heard one clod try to claim that the very laws of physics were somehow changed by the flood. Exactly how they were changed and what they were before were questions the obnoxious fellow refused to answer.

Answer 7

!st flood killed prehistoric life and was start of the modern era of evolution. Noah's flood was second and last flood also changing the atmosphere where it seems like Noah is seeing a rainbow for the very first time.

Answer 8

There is far to much to explain in 99 characters. Here is a link to one article but this site contains many more on the subject:

http://icr.org/article/668/

Brightest Blessings

Answer 9

*** it-1 pp. 609-610 Deluge ***

Extent of the Deluge. This was no local flash flood or cloudburst. In fact, the Greek word used in the Bible to refer to the Flood, or Deluge, is ka·ta·kly·smos´, a cataclysm. (Lu 17:27, ftn) Local floods come and go in a matter of days; this one lasted over a year, the greater portion of which was required for the water to subside. How unreasonable to believe that Noah spent perhaps 50 or 60 years building a huge vessel of approximately 40,000 cu m (1,400,000 cu ft) for the survival of his family and a few animals through a mere local flood! If only a comparatively small area was affected, why the need of bringing into the ark specimens of "every living creature of every sort of flesh" in order to "preserve offspring alive on the surface of the entire earth"? (Ge 6:19; 7:3) Definitely this was a global deluge, the like of which had never occurred before nor has since. "The waters overwhelmed the earth so greatly that all the tall mountains that were under the whole heavens came to be covered. Up to 15 cubits [c. 6.5 m; 22 ft] the waters overwhelmed them and the mountains became covered." (Ge 7:19, 20) "The end of all flesh has come before me," Jehovah said, hence "I will wipe every existing thing that I have made off the surface of the ground." And it was just so. "Everything in which the breath of the force of life was active in its nostrils, namely, all that were on the dry ground, died . . . only Noah and those who were with him in the ark kept on surviving."-Ge 6:13; 7:4, 22, 23.

Timing of the Deluge. The Deluge did not come suddenly without warning. Years of time were spent building the ark, time that Noah the "preacher of righteousness" also used in warning that wicked generation. (2Pe 2:5) Finally the time limit was up "in the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month." The "male and female of every sort of flesh" had been brought into the ark with Noah's family, as well as a sufficient food supply for all, and "after that Jehovah shut the door." Then "the floodgates of the heavens were opened." (Ge 7:11, 16) There was an incessant torrential downpour for "forty days and forty nights"; "the waters continued overwhelming the earth" a hundred and fifty days. (Ge 7:4, 12, 24) Five months after the downpour began, the ark "came to rest on the mountains of Ararat." (Ge 8:4) It was nearly two and a half months later before "the tops of the mountains appeared" (Ge 8:5), another three months before Noah removed the ark's covering to see that the earth had practically drained (Ge 8:13), and nearly two months later when the door was opened and the survivors set foot on dry ground once again.-Ge 8:14-18.

Noah and his family entered the ark in the 600th year of Noah's life, the 2nd month (October-November), the 17th day. (Ge 7:11) One year later (a year consisting of 360 days) was the 17th day, 2nd month, 601st year. Ten days after that would be the 27th day of the 2nd month, when they came out; a total of 370 days, or parts of 371 separate days, spent in the ark. (Ge 8:13, 14) In the log that Noah kept, it appears he used months of 30 days each, 12 of them equaling 360 days. In this way he avoided all the complicated fractions involved had he used strictly lunar months consisting of slightly more than 29 1/2 days. That such calculations were used in the account is evident from the fact that a five-month period consisted of 150 days.-Ge 7:11, 24; 8:3, 4.

The Floodwaters. It has been said that if all the moisture in the atmosphere were suddenly released as rain it would not amount to even a couple of inches if spread over the earth's surface. So from what source was this vast deluge of Noah's day? According to the Genesis account, God said to Noah: "Here I [Jehovah] am bringing the deluge [or, "heavenly ocean"; Heb., mab·bul´] of waters upon the earth." (Ge 6:17, ftn) Describing what happened, the next chapter says: "All the springs of the vast watery deep were broken open and the floodgates of the heavens were opened." (Ge 7:11) So overwhelming was the Deluge that "all the tall mountains that were under the whole heavens came to be covered."-Ge 7:19.

Where did this "heavenly ocean" come from? The Genesis account of creation tells how on the second "day" Jehovah made an expanse about the earth, and this expanse (called "Heaven") formed a division between the waters below it, that is, the oceans, and the waters above it. (Ge 1:6-8) The waters suspended above the expanse evidently remained there from the second "day" of creation until the Flood. This is what the apostle Peter was talking about when he recounted that there "were heavens from of old and an earth standing compactly out of water and in the midst of water by the word of God." Those "heavens" and the waters above and beneath them were the means that God's word called into operation, and "by those means the world of that time suffered destruction when it was deluged with water." (2Pe 3:5, 6) Various explanations have been offered as to how the water was held aloft until the Flood and as to the processes that resulted in its falling. But these are only speculative. The Bible says simply that God made the expanse with waters above it and that he brought the Deluge. His almighty power could easily accomplish it.

Since, as the Genesis account says, "all the tall mountains" were covered with water, where is all that water now? Evidently it is right here on the earth. It is believed that there was a time when the oceans were smaller and the continents were larger than they are now, as is evidenced by river channels extending far out under the oceans. It should also be noted that scientists have stated that mountains in the past were much lower than at present, and some mountains have even been pushed up from under the seas. As to the present situation, it is said that "there is ten times as much water by volume in the ocean as there is land above sea level. Dump all this land evenly into the sea, and water would cover the entire earth, one and one-half miles deep." (National Geographic, January 1945, p. 105) So, after the floodwaters fell, but before the raising of mountains and the lowering of seabeds and before the buildup of polar ice caps, there was more than enough water to cover "all the tall mountains," as the inspired record says.-Ge 7:19.

Effect on the Earth. With the Deluge great changes came, for example, the life span of humans dropped very rapidly. Some have suggested that prior to the Flood the waters above the expanse shielded out some of the harmful radiation and that, with the waters gone, cosmic radiation genetically harmful to man increased. However, the Bible is silent on the matter. Incidentally, any change in radiation would have altered the rate of formation of radioactive carbon-14 to such an extent as to invalidate all radiocarbon dates prior to the Flood.

With the sudden opening of the 'springs of the watery deep' and "the floodgates of the heavens," untold billions of tons of water deluged the earth. (Ge 7:11) This may have caused tremendous changes in earth's surface. The earth's crust is relatively thin (estimated at between 30 km [20 mi] and 160 km [100 mi] thick), stretched over a rather plastic mass thousands of kilometers in diameter. Hence, under the added weight of the water, there was likely a great shifting in the crust. In time new mountains evidently were thrust upward, old mountains rose to new heights, shallow sea basins were deepened, and new shorelines were established, with the result that now about 70 percent of the surface is covered with water. This shifting in the earth's crust may account for many geologic phenomena, such as the raising of old coastlines to new heights. It has been estimated by some that water pressures alone were equal to "2 tons per square inch," sufficient to fossilize fauna and flora quickly.-


*** g90 2/8 p. 11 What Happened to the Dinosaurs? ***

Account and Dinosaurs

While the radioactive dating method is innovative, it is still based on speculation and assumption. In contrast, the Bible account in the first chapter of Genesis simply states the general order of creation. It allows for possibly thousands of millions of years for the formation of the earth and many millenniums in six creative eras, or "days," to prepare the earth for human habitation.

Some dinosaurs (and pterosaurs) may indeed have been created in the fifth era listed in Genesis, when the Bible says that God made "flying creatures" and "great sea monsters." Perhaps other types of dinosaurs were created in the sixth epoch. The vast array of dinosaurs with their huge appetites would have been appropriate considering the abundant vegetation that evidently existed in their time.-Genesis 1:20-24.

When the dinosaurs had fulfilled their purpose, God ended their life. But the Bible is silent on how he did that or when. We can be sure that dinosaurs were created by Jehovah for a purpose, even if we do not fully understand that purpose at this time. They were no mistake, no product of evolution. That they suddenly appear in the fossil record unconnected to any fossil ancestors, and also disappear without leaving connecting fossil links, is evidence against the view that such animals gradually evolved over millions of years of time. Thus, the fossil record does not support the evolution theory. Instead, it harmonizes with the Bible's view of creative acts of God.