Did Jesus die on a torture stake or a cross?

Answer 1

The Bible says CROSS and according to 2 Tim. 3:1617 ALL SCRIPTURE (every word) is inspired by God and according to Titus 1:2, God can't lie. The jw's altered the bible or instead of reading the bible they are spending to much time in their watchtower books and awake magazines...additions to scripture.

You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor take from it, that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you. Deut. 4:2

Answer 2

Yes. Stauros!!

http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/NTpdf/mat27.pdf

...folks, you do know thats an instrument of gruesome death.

Dont think Christ would like his followers to remember him that way.

I wonder, did the Israelites make a little necklace/statue of Moses or the Tablets?...


Update:

Troll to Troll "Jesus stated that the Cross would be used."

...I guess the apostles and disciples must of missed that because, its nowhere mentioned in the scriptures...

Answer 3

Since everyone want's to talk about the origins of the word cross here you go, http://av1611.com/kjbp/kjv-dictionary/cross.html

So you can see that the cross we have today (A big t) is what was used. Also I believe you are using the KJV and that website right there is the 1611 AV KJV, showing what the word cross means in greek.

Answer 4

A cross............wherein His Hands and Feet were pierced. This was prophesied in Isaiah.........and it was the blood He shed from these wounds that purchased our salvation. "Without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins". Heb. 9:22 - and don't forget the spear in Jesus' side.........where blood gushed out, and the crown of thorns on His Head, where blood dripped down. To say Jesus died tied to a stake is blasphemy.......untrue to the Scriptures, and its reason is devilish.....the devil hates Jesus' blood, and he tries his level best to discredit it, to wipe it out of folk's 'religion'. What hogwash. Oh, and don't forget the bloody back of Jesus, where the soldiers lashed HIm. Jesus' blood was NECESSARY for our salvation !! So simple, but so many folks deny it, and they call it 'religion'.

Answer 5

The Bible clearly and undeniably teaches that Jesus died on a cross (Matthew 27:32,40,42; Mark 15:21,30,32; Luke 23:26; John 19:17,19,25; Acts 2:23; 1 Corinthians 1:17-18; Colossians 1:20; 2:14-15). The Greek words in those Scriptures specifically identify a cross, not a pole or stake. The most common method of execution by the Romans in Jesus’ time was crucifying a person on a cross, with nails through their hands/wrists and feet/ankles. Sometimes people were tied to the cross in addition to being nailed to it. There were instances where people were crucified to poles, stakes, trees, x-shaped crosses, etc. But this was not the case with Jesus – He was crucified on a cross.

Answer 6

He died on a torture stake with a crossbar attached, which is why we refer to his death as a crucifixion.

The true cross was unearthed in the holy land during the 4th century, and positively identified as such.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04517a.htm

Answer 7

Yes!

Ironically, pro-cross activists seem to ignore the fact that they themselves actually believe that Christ was impaled on a stake, albeit a stake with a crossbeam ("patibulum") attached.

It seems ironic also that the Greek term "stauros" was used to refer to either a plain or crossed stake, and the Latin term "crux" was used to refer to either a plain or crossed stake, and the English term "torture stake" can be used to refer to either a plain or crossed stake. Yet, pro-cross activists seem intent on shouting down any possibility other than their cherished but unsupportable tradition.

True Christians (such as Jehovah's Witnesses) do not behave in such a closeminded manner, and in fact true Christians (such as Jehovah's Witnesses) spend little time arguing about the exact shape of Christ's instrument of impalement. As true disciples of Christ, Jehovah's Witnesses do not distract from his message of the good news by going around denouncing the cross. Instead, Witnesses believe that the bible plainly forbids idolatry of any kind, including the worshipful use of icons such as crucifixes.
http://watchtower.org/bible/1jo/chapter_005.htm?bk=1jo;chp=5;vs=21;citation#bk21
http://watchtower.org/bible/ac/chapter_017.htm?bk=ac;chp=17;vs=29;citation#bk29

(1 John 5:21) Guard yourselves from idols.

(Acts 17:29) We ought not to imagine that the Divine Being is like gold or silver or stone, like something sculptured by the art and contrivance of man


The exact shape of Christ's instrument of death is hardly a central doctrine of the faith, but Jehovah's Witnesses do happen to believe that Jesus was almost certainly impaled on a simple stake, rather than a cross of two intersecting beams. Of course the Romans had the ability to create a cross, and probably did. But ask yourself: why they would have bothered when a simple stake would have worked just as well or better?

The bible most assuredly does NOT offer any proof that the stake was actually a cross of two intersecting beams. The actual facts of the bible may be enlightening to examine...

You may be interested to see how your own copy of the bible translates Acts 5:30, Galatians 3:13, Deuteronomy 21:22, 23, and Acts 10:39. The King James, Revised Standard, Dyaglott, and Jerusalem Bible translate the instrument of Christ's death simply as "stake" or "tree" because the original wording simply does not support the idea that this was more than a piece of upright wood. The English word "cross" is an imprecise translation of the Latin word "crux". Note this image of crucifixion performed with a "crux simplex", such as seems to have been used to execute Jesus:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Justus_Lipsius_Crux_Simplex_1629.jpg

It is also eye-opening to examine how the first-century Christians felt about idols of any kind, much less one that glorified an instrument of death.

Learn more:
http://watchtower.org/e/200604a/article_01.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/20050508a/article_01.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/rq/index.htm?article=article_11.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/19960715/article_01.htm

Answer 8

Jesus stated that the Cross would be used.

John 3:
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And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
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That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

What does Jesus say? He will be raised up as the brass serpent was raised!

This was on a pole or a flagstaff. A flagstaff has a cross bar from which a pendant was hung. Each of the twelve tribes had a banner that hung this way.

Moses hung a brass serpent on one of these by the order of God Almighty. So that if a person was poisoned by a viper they could gaze upon it, believe, and live.

Now Christians do not use a brass viper but a simple cross. Why? So they may look upon it, believe, and live.

There is a lot of poison out there we must keep our eyes upon the goal and run the race.

This is a symbol of a Christian’s beliefs and Redemption.

Satan the Devil does not want us to use this symbol. Matter of fact, Satan knew and knows the path of Redemption, he has known what Jehovah God's path was from the beginning and has done his best to imitate it and slander it by using various versions in pagan religions where and when he could sneak it in.

And to use that word - Interestingly - this verse is followed by John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Christians do not worship the cross they use it as a sign to others of thier faith. This is the same as people that are Jewish use the Star of David as a sign of being under the Mosiac Law. Christians use the cross as a symbol as being under the discipleship of Christ.

Answer 9

Yes. The purpose of the cross was death by torture, so either description is accurate.

Edit:

Dismal B - The cross was not a common method of execution? Ever hear of Spartacus and the slave's rebellion, and what finally happened to them?

Answer 10

Any honest and respectable greek scholar will tell you that the word translated 'cross' in many bibles actually signifies and upright post.

Interestingly, crosses were not common forms of punishment in ancient Rome. Even the most extant artwork has depictions of people nailed to a stake or a tree.

Jehovah's Witnesses didn't rewrite the bible, they simply produced a translation that says in english what the original says in greek, hebrew, and aramaic. Reputable scholars, even non-Witness ones, will attest to this too!

- Bob