convince me...?

Question

that Christianity is not real.


i wonder how people go about disproving the Bible and what their excuses are to some of the proven things.
im not posting this for all the non-believers to become angry and yell at me, im just curious.

Answer 1

First of all get your wording straight. Christianity is real, as in, its an actual religion and people practice it.

Answer 2

It's not like it matters much whether the Bible is factually actually true or not......people who say that you have to have faith are right. You either make the leap without being rational and believe it word for word or you don't. It's that simple.

But if you want one little bit to chew on....

The Great Flood....ample evidence exists for this being a story passed down by word of mouth describing one or more actual events that took place when low lying areas were suddenly flooded forcing the inhabitants to flee for their lives.

The Black Sea is thought to be on of these locations, along with the Red Sea. Both are connected to the world ocean by very narrow passages, and both could have been blocked off by natural barriers that could have failed and allowed the waters to flood in.

Both areas are in the region where most of the activity in the Bible takes place, so they are good candidates for the origin of the story that became the tale of Moses and the Great Flood.

But if you believe that the Bible is true word for word....

Then it wasn't just a local event that stuck in the minds of the people who survived it. The entire world was entirely covered under the water for more than a month, then all that water went away and dry land reappeared.

So where did all that water go? Do the math and figure it out. The entire world covered up to the height of the highest mountain. That's quite a lot of water.

If you have to answer that it's just one of God's miracles....then there is no point in asking for rational proof of anything....you believe because you believe.

Personally I think it is a much more interesting book if you look to the stories behind the translation we have today. Some of this stuff might have actually happened to real people. Find the source of the folklore that became the Bible, and you might actually have something.

Answer 3

If you read some of the answers on this question, you will see that people only accept evidence that proves what they want to believe. Many of the courts today will accept a witness to an event as evidence, but no one so far has accepted the testimony of the witnesses in the bible. Many people accept as evidence proof as a result of an experiment. Such as, if I see a foot print I can use that as evidence that someone put it there. However, non believers don't believe the evidence of a world's existence as proof that it came from somewhere. In short, non believers won't believe no matter how much evidence you present. Look at the ten plagues in Egypt. It has been proven that they happened. The evidence was even published on the Discovery Channel. That all the plagues happened is a fact. The Non believer will accept that a natural phenomenon caused the plagues, and ignore the fact that Moses predicted them all. How did he know they were going to happen? Who told him? How did he guess all ten in perfect order. In court, if I predicted anything ten times correctly, they would accept that as proof that I had inside information. They would accept I had a source. Who was Moses' source? Watch how they answer that question and you will see how the blind wish to be blind.

An evil sinner, who is grateful to be saved.

Answer 4

Nobody argues that Christianity is not real. Christianity's premise it's the one with the doubt. The Bible is just another History book, which is glorified to the extreme by Christian fanatics whom elevate it to the point of being, almost as important as the deity which it worships. Now, you are mentioning "some of the things" the Bible has proven, you have to give examples and elaborate, you are the one who has to convince me that the Bible is not just another History book. Another point, is that you are asking a question, don't be condecending by asking not to get angry or yell at you.If you want to post a question in this forum, be aware of the consequences and take them for what they worth regardless of their intentions or content.
"If you don't like the answers, don't ask the question"

Answer 5

proven? Really? I've talked to more Christians then I ever should have about the subject, and not once could they bring a shred of proof about their religion. Take away the bible, and there is no way one could come to most of the conclusions of the Bible.

It would help to know why you actually believed the Christian bible religion is somehow the truth if you want me to narrow down what is wrong with the Christian religion.

Answer 6

keebler...if someone is determined not to believe something, they are just not going to. I sat through a conference where Josh McDowell presented the evidence that the Bible is historically and geographically accurate. I have also discovered this in my own studies. The proof is out there. But, as i said, if you don't want to believe it, you won't. Also, remember the scripture that says that some things are spiritually decerned and cannot be understood by someone with no spiritual discernment.

Answer 7

It' impossible to prove a negative. I can't prove that Santa Claus doesn't exist--every time I come up with an argument--"how does Santa visit millions of homes in one night"--then the person asserting Santa can make another unproven assertion like "he has supersonic reindeer" and so on, ad infinitum.

No, the person making the assertion is who has the burden of proof. I give far, far, far more credence to direct empirical evidence like levitating or faith-healing an amputee than just reading alleged accounts of miracles in the Bible. If you can give me sufficient empirical evidence, then you might convince me your beliefs are real, otherwise, I'm not going to believe you...

Answer 8

what makes it real? were the Egyptians correct in worshiping Ra? what about the Greeks and Zeus? Christianity is just the new kid on the block. i wonder who the populace will worship in a few 1000 years.

and what exactly is proven about the bible? i thot that was the point about the bible, its faith, not fact. we know jesus was a guy, but the son of a god? thats faith.


one day i hope you will open your eyes. but if Christianity is your thing, go for it, just dont coming door to door telling me i'm wrong.

Answer 9

I am not making a claim..... YOU are. You are claiming a god exists....

A positive existential proclamation bears the burden of proof. This is why a prosecutor must prove a crime was committed and then who committed the crime. The logical default for the premise that a crime has been committed is not “yes” or even “maybe” but “no”. If I proclaim to have a purple unicorn in my basement, the logical default for that proposition, barring evidence, is “no”.

There is NO evidence of the existence of a divine being so the default answer is the negative.... There is no god.

Answer 10

The burden of proof lies with the one making the claim. It's up to Christians to prove Christianity true. And what "proven things" are you talking about? That's news to me.

Answer 11

Well, for one… there’s the fact that Christianity, like all religions, makes a lot of claims about magical things that simply do not seem believable. To illustrate this better, look at Hinduism. Hinduism teaches about all these different gods with 6 arms and 6 eyes and blue skin and elephant heads. It teaches that cows are sacred. It teaches that reincarnation is true. To Christians, the beliefs of Hinduism surely seem silly and false. Well, to anyone that wasn’t raised in a Christian culture, the beliefs of Christianity seem equally as silly and false. I think Christians only believe in their religion because their life in a Christian culture makes it seem believable to them.

If that doesn’t convince you to think twice, then consider that reasoning can show that most Christian beliefs don’t really make sense. For example, why would God need to go to earth as Jesus and die in order for people to be saved from hell? God is supposed to control the universe and determine who he’s going to send to heaven and hell. So if God wanted people to be saved, all he would have to do is NOT send people to hell unless they’re really really bad. Also, if belief in Jesus and love for Jesus are required to get into heaven, the vast majority of people that have ever lived have gone to hell, as will the vast majority of those living today. If you imagine a pie chart of every human soul that has ever existed and where those souls currently are, 98% of them would be in hell. 1% would be in heaven. And 1% would be alive on earth. Does this sound like a picture of a world that a good, loving God would want? And if God is all knowing, then he would know who is going to hell before they are even born. So why would he bother to even make people that are going to end up in hell? Why would God give people the gift of free will if he forces everyone to love him and do what he says or else suffer hell? That’s not freedom. If the devil causes people to do bad things, then why would God punish the people for doing them when it’s not their fault? If the purpose of life is to do God’s will and get into heaven, then what’s the purpose of being in heaven? The list goes on and on.

Also, there is physical evidence. For example, the bible supposedly claims that the earth is 6,000 years old. Yet all evidence clearly shows that the earth is hundreds of millions of years old. The bible says God made the earth in 7 days, but evidence suggests that earth formed gradually over a million years or so. The bible talks about Adam and Eve, yet there is strong evidence for evolution.

Also, there’s the old Christian assumption that the world had to come from somewhere, therefore it must have been God. It’s quite a giant jump to conclusions to think that, because the world had to come from somewhere, it must have been the Judeo-Christian God, heaven and hell must exist, angels and daemons exist, Sunday is a holy day, babies have to have a man in a robe pour water on their head, the creator of the universe wants people to pray to him…and so on.

Also, there are historical records that the bible and the general beliefs of Christians have been tampered with and re-written many times and twisted to the point where it could easily be concluded that it’s all made up.

I could go on and on about the reasoning against the claims of Christianity and historical evidence against it and stuff like that, but this is only Yahoo answers so I’m not exactly going to write a book for you about why I think Christianity is false. But this should give you an idea. Granted, you might say this doesn’t PROVE Christianity is false. But you can’t really prove that unicorns aren’t real either. All you can do is show that the beliefs of Christianity are pretty silly and most likely as false as Greek Mythology or Harry Potter.