I cannot understand the argument of how being gay or not is a choice. It is scientifically shown that animals have sometimes been gay and they do not have the option of freewill the way we do.
Can anyone give me a logical explanation as to how it is possible for it to be someone's choice? Please no Bible babble, because I don't believe in a book.
2007-10-28 14:18:32 · 21 answers · asked by dancingirl 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
I need to clarify that I do not want Bible quotes or what you think God has to say about it. I want a person's OWN interpretation of why they think animals are sometimes gay and they don't get to choose.
And anyone taking offense to being considered like an animal, did you ever think they might take offense to being like you?
2007-10-28 14:33:36 · update #1
reba-who am I to judge whether it's a sin or not? Isn't that up to God? Am I not here on earth to love everyone as myself? Is it up to me who should be condemned or not?
2007-10-28 15:44:56 · update #2
homosexuality isn't a choice youre born gay, bisexual, or straight
2007-10-28 14:22:40 · answer #1 · answered by JFK fan--(Hug Brigade) 4 · 9⤊ 3⤋
Maybe one is born with the predisposition to gay tendencies. You still have a choice on whether to act on tose tendencies. People are born with the tendency to be an alcoholic. Our society doesn't coddle those people and say "It's okay you were born that way" Some people are born with a desire to have relations with children or animals. Some people are born with a desire to kill. Society doesn't find any of these tendences acceptable so we say they are "crazy" or "damaged" well 50 years ago we said the same thing about gays. How long until we are told to accept all the rest. Lets have a murderer pride day. I do not bash those who CHOOSE to be gay. I do my best not to pass judgement on anyone. If in your mind you have worked it out to think that homosexuality is not a sin, I am happy you can live with that. Yes it is probably a result of a DNA mutation or maybe just the wisperings of Satan, but ultamently YOU HAVE A CHOICE about whether or not to act on those feelings. Just because something has become acceptable to MAN does not mean it is acceptable to GOD.
2007-10-28 22:39:29 · answer #2 · answered by reba 2 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Well I actually am completely the other way on this one. Where in one's DNA would there be an amino acid sequence programming "gayness" into a human? If there's a "gay gene" don't you think scientists would have found it by now? Especially since they've pretty much mapped out the entire human genome.
Do you think all girls are attractive, or do you find some hot and some disgusting? I think who you choose to have sex with is just that - a choice. Maybe a guy finds other guys attractive. I thnk that's a hell of a lot easier to believe than "he was born that way".
About your animal argument:
What makes you think they don't have free will? Male cats don't mate with every female cat they see. They choose their mates. In the same way, I don't think it's so hard to believe that one cat may prefer other males over females. If you feel so strongly about this, go into molecular cell biology and find the "gay gene" You'll make a shitload of dollars.
2007-10-28 21:34:03 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋
Bambino8's answer strikes at the root of gay animals. Take the monkeys she mentions. It all boils down to who gets to mate and who doesn't, i.e., the survival of the fittest. If you are not the dominant male, you get no females. The non-dominant males either topple the dominant male or become wimpy dorks that all wind up screwing each other because they are sexually frustrated. These 'gay' animals will eventually get aids and their gene lines will die. Hence, survival of the fittest.
So they have a choice, either fight for their females and possibly win or die, or wimp out, turn gay, and die without offspring. Animals and humans are not that different.
2007-10-29 15:00:57 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Hi Dancingirl
Well, I don't personally believe it to be someone's choice as well. I did get an answer to one of my questions though saying that homosexuality is a problem in the DNA. That seems logical IMO
Just my thoughts :P
PS Next time you ask a question regarding Religion, you got to make it REALLY specific or a lot of religious people will just come out and ruin your question instead of trying to answer it.
2007-10-29 07:05:37 · answer #5 · answered by Tim Buck 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
If you don't believe in a book, then what do you believe since almost every thought ans all information has already been written? I also find it amazing that you recognize that we have "freewill" which is a belief that comes from the book that you don't want mentioned.
You are confusing animals with humans, and you have already given your own answer. Humans have the ability to reason and to chose what they do. We don't live through the use of instincts.
There is a doctor who is currently doing studies by changing sex hormones and is finding that when the rats receive a large dose of hormones from the opposite gender that they take on some characteristics of that other gender. Even though we already have sex hormones from the opposite gender from birth. The difference is that we can use our reasoning abilities to resist those characteristics that might result from a hormonal imbalance. (One source of excess hormones is found in meats and milk products.)
In our world today, it seems as if everyone wants to place the blame for various things outside of themselves they want to be a victim; we don't want to take responsibility for our own lives. There is also the idea that whatever feels good is good, but following through with this idea can kill you.
2007-10-28 21:42:24 · answer #6 · answered by Marty 4 · 0⤊ 3⤋
Regardless of my sexuality, whatever someone is attracted to is not their choice. What they do because of the attraction is.
A fancies B. fine. A has sexual intercourse with B.
Religion may then state rules dependant upon gender and marriage.
Law may state upon consent and gender.
Morality may state upon consent and 'duty'.
Choice is an oddity and something, that when fully examined, becomes hard to define.. N
"[animals] do not have the option of freewill the way we do."
this needs defining bfore made into a logical argument (as requried by question)
hope this helps?
2007-10-28 21:25:02 · answer #7 · answered by p_giffney 4 · 3⤊ 1⤋
Some animals like male lions will kill any offspring of a previous male before they can mate with the female in order to pass on their genes---should humans be allowed to do that as well? We are not animals...we know right from wrong...animals just follow instincts and homosexuality does not cause reproduction...the animal species would quickly go extinct. "Gay" conduct in animals is a way of showing domination or frustration at being unable to breed.
2007-10-28 21:35:52 · answer #8 · answered by paul h 7 · 0⤊ 2⤋
It is only, in reality, a belief that governs "choice," whether conscious nor subconscious. How could flesh or a human brain actually know what sexuality is? yet we believe whatever the human mind spits out.
2007-10-28 21:34:51 · answer #9 · answered by ? 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
It is in the genes. Only some ignorant religious fundamentalists believe it is a choice. They are stuck with the science of primitive troglodytes.
Do not waste your time on them. You cannot educate some one whose mind is closed.
2007-10-28 21:35:12 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 1⤋
Animals are "gay" (try primate troupes) because the lower ranking males are not allowed to mate with the higher ranking females, or attacked by the higher ranking males if they try to approach an alpha female. The "leftover" males begin imitating sexual acts on each other out of frustration, and "practice" if you will.
If you want to view human sexuality this way, so be it.
2007-10-28 21:24:13 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 3⤋