is some one from the R@S able to give a comprehensive explanation of the Holy trinity to me?

Question

I can imagine the God /the concept, not the God himself/, I understand the Jesus to be the Son, but what is the Holy ghost and how does he/it differ from the God...
I mean I know the common answers like "these three are One in fact" etc.
Please ommit accusing the Christianity of polytheism, this is not the issue discussed in my question.

Answer 1

Probably not.

Even most Trinitarians do not understand the Holy Trinity very well.

The Bible does not contain the word Trinity. However, the Holy Trinity is hinted at repeatedly in both the Old and New Testaments.

Even in Genesis chapter one is a hint that God was not a singularity. Verse 26 states: "Then God said: "Let us make man in our image, after OUR likeness."

Under the influence of the Holy Spirit, the early Christians prayed and struggled over these hints for a couple of centuries. The concept of the Holy Trinity (three persons in one God) was mainstream Christianity by 325 A.D. at the Council of Nicaea and our belief is expressed in the Nicene Creed from that council:

We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is seen and unseen.

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, one in being with the Father. ...

We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son. With the Father and the Son, He is worshiped and glorified. ...

This belief is shared by most Christian denominations including Roman and Orthodox Catholics, Lutherans, Anglicans, Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians, Pentecostals, Episcopalians, and the Salvation Army.

here is a story told about St Augustine:

Augustine was walking along the seashore trying to figure out the mystery of the Holy Trinity and came up to a little boy. The boy was trying to pour the ocean into a hole in the sand with a seashell. Augustine told the boy what he was doing was impossible. Then the little boy told Augustine that it is also impossible for the mind of man to try to understand the mystery of the Holy Trinity. The little boy turned into an angel and disappeared.

For many biblical references, see: http://www.cwo.com/~pentrack/catholic/Trinity.txt

With love in Christ.

Answer 2

The tasks of the individual members of the Trinity: The Father is the ultimate source or cause of: 1) the universe (1 Corinthians 8:6; Revelation 4:11); 2) divine revelation (Revelation 1:1); 3) salvation (John 3:16-17); and 4) Jesus' human works (John 5:17; 14:10). The Father INITIATES all of these things.

The Son is the agent through whom the Father does the following works: 1) the creation and maintenance of the universe (1 Corinthians 8:6; John 1:3; Colossians 1:16-17); 2) divine revelation (John 1:1; Matthew 11:27; John 16:12-15; Revelation 1:1); and 3) salvation (2 Corinthians 5:19; Matthew 1:21; John 4:42). The Father does all these things through the Son, who functions as His agent.

The Holy Spirit is the means by whom the Father does the following works: 1) creation and maintenance of the universe (Genesis 1:2; Job 26:13; Psalm 104:30); 2) divine revelation (John 16:12-15; Ephesians 3:5; 2 Peter 1:21); 3) salvation (John 3:6; Titus 3:5; 1 Peter 1:2); and 4) Jesus' works (Isaiah 61:1; Acts 10:38). Thus the Father does all these things by the power of the Holy Spirit.

Answer 3

Based on Scripture, this is how the early Church Fathers explained the Trinity. I picked it off of the LCMS website because I knew it was there. This creed was attributed to St. Athanasias of Alexandria, but scholars now agree that it came sometime later, however it was based on the apologetics of Athanasius.

This Creed is confessed by not only us Lutherans, but the Roman Catholic, Anglican (Episcopal), and many of the reformed Churches as the third of the three Ecumenical Creeds.

Generally this Creed is used once a year on the Feast of the Holy Trinity in Denominations that are Liturgical, and follow a Liturgical Calendar.

I hope this helps. If you have any other Questions, feel free to email me.

Mark

shttp://www.lcms.org/pages/internal.asp?NavID=3357
The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod - Athanasian Creed

Answer 4

The Holy Ghost, or Holy Spirit, is the aspect of God that dwells within us and gives us spiritual gifts like understanding, faith, wisdom, discernment, healing, etc. The Holy Spirit was referred to by Jesus as "the comforter". Through the Holy Spirit we are brought closer to God. Most Christians believe in the baptism of the Holy Spirit, which is not the same as baptism in water. Baptism of the Holy Spirit is something you may have to pray for a long time, or it may just happen. That is when the Holy Spirit fills you, and you begin to become aware of the spiritual gifts God has given to you- these vary from individual to individual. As well as those named above, these gifts may also include prophecy, evangelism, or tongues.

Answer 5

OK, I will try.

GOD is our creator. He is the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. He has always been.

JESUS is God's one and only son. Born of a virgin, and thus, without sin. (yes man is created in God's image from the dust of the earth, but Jesus was directly created by God and placed in Mary's womb)

The HOLY SPIRIT is how God communicates with us. It is what connects us to God. It is that feeling that tells us right from wrong. It is Gods way of being with us constantly. It is how he watches over us.

This is my take on the Holy Trinity, I hope it helps...

Answer 6

any god/goddess can have different aspects, different faces/personifications of the same entity. Not completely unlike different actors playing the same part.

in early forms of Christianity, the Holy Ghost reperesented the feminine aspect of divinity. In the original Greek biblical texts, the HG clearly is a "she," but once translated into Latin this becomes a "he."

This is a truncated version of the Jewish YHVH, which is actually a formula of creation: Y= the original spark of life (in Christianity, the Father; in Judaism, gender-neutral), the first H as the feminine/reproducer of life (In Christianity, comparable with Holy Ghost or perhaps Mary). V is the son, and H is the next feminine continuation (presumably with more VHs added on and on to infinity)(for the Christian formula to fit the Jewish model, you could use Mary Magdelene, perhaps).

Answer 7

BS to the Left of me, BS to the right of me, here I am, stuck in the middle with more BS. That's 3 in 1 isn't it?

Answer 8

The Holy Spirit is, althought can't be separated FROM God, has beingness (?) separate so we can identify Him. In the Bible, in the gospel of John I think, when Jesus the man was baptized in water, the Holy Spirit came upon Him..., anointing Him for supernatural service and the Father spoke from heaven about "this is my Beloved Son in whom I am well pleased"..etc. At that moment in time, all THREE aspects; persons of the Holy Trinity were represented in that scene!
You may be a wife and to your husband, he knows you from that vantage point, then you are someone's daughter and your parent(s) know you from that vantage point and that relationship is primary to their knowing you and dealing with you and then you KNOW yourself; YOU know your heart, your INNER CONSCIOUSNESS of who you know yourself to be and how you personally feel and think and the power of your personalilty with your gifts, talents, likes and dislikes, etc... the REAL core, "spirit" of you....
Well, not to ever dishonor the Holy Spirit of God.., the REAL core of the LORD Himself is who the Holy Spirit IS..., HE, this 'spirit' is what comes to INDWELL us when we are baptized with the Holy Spirit..., it's NOT WATER that brings Him for us..., that is a ritual to signify (according to scripture) we are dead to the world and our old identity, buried (in the grave as was our Lord), and then come up out of the water as a sign of our resurrection to a new life; a new creature being born AGAIN as we come to life IN CHRIST. The Bible says, "those who have been buried in Christ (the Anointed One) has "put on" Christ (His anointing). Then, the infilling or baptism of the Holy Spirit is another baptism according to the Apostles (read the Book of Acts). We are all saved by grace through our faith, then baptized in water as a statement of our personal death, burial and resurrection as our Lord did, and by faith once more, we come and ask the Lord to FILL US, not touch us with, HIS SPIRIT.., and the evidence of that indwelling is the speaking in tongues and/or prophesying; the same as in the New Testament; in Acts of the Apostles. It is a real experience that last our entire walk with Jesus.., and we can continue to be filled as we seek Him for more of His Spirit. Then we are equipped for 'service' in the kingdom of God.
YOU ARE a spirit, you HAVE a soul (mind, will & emotions), and you live IN A body. After the Holy Spirit of God comes to 'fill your personal spirit up and abide with you forever' (not visit) your spirit is now God's "usable" property and He speaks to you moment by moment. It is not the same as 'knowing' Him with your mind.., then it is "spirit to spirit".., deeper and clearer.
That way, God the Holy Spirit isn't in only the heavenly location or other believers, He resides INSIDE your spirit! He takes up residence. I don't know another way to explain. To seek the baptism of the Holy Spirit is what God wants from us.. It is GOD's "Self" living inside. Yes, we who are born-again by confessing Jesus as Savior and Lord ARE "born OF the Spirit", but only with the "baptism or infilling of the HolySpirit" are we filled WITH the Holy Spirit!
Read Luke 11: 9-13 and I pray you understand and seek ALL He has for you!!
Remember, your "inner spirit", your true heart, "you" on the inside that is alive no matter what your body is doing.., even asleep, is that INVISIBLE 'self' of you..., the same with the Holy Spirit of God..., invisible, but the reality of God's True Personage.
(May I never offend my Lord with my inept explanations of Him or His Holy Spirit, He knows my heart.., and yours.)

Answer 9

There are several clear explanations on here:


http://www.gotquestions.org/

Answer 10

1=3

Simple.