Do You Think People Who Fought For Britain...?

Question

...in the First and Second World Wars would have agreed to put their lives on the line if they had have known that the Labour Party would betray them years later by denying the British people their democratic right to a vote on the EU Constitution? Is this what they fought for?

Mr Sceptic - we meet again. I resent your comment that I am using the dead to further my own political point of view. The plain fact of the matter is that the people who fought and died and suffered in these conflicts did so to protect our freedom and justice, something that New Labour are currently trampling all over. Gordon Brown may as well be walking on their graves such is his contempt for democratic process!

Answer 1

I agree with you Elvis. I think its a disgrace that this country has been put in the hands of people that spit on everything those men and women died for. Freedom of speech, Freedom of choice, etc etc. I didn't realise that the democratic process involved having politicians that suppressed the news and told lie upon lie to get the people onside. I always thought that the only secrets were in the interests of National Security not for the furtherance of political ambition. Our patriotic forefathers must be spinning in their graves, and Brown and co. should be hanging their heads in shame.

Answer 2

In most cases they didn't have much choice in the matter. conscription was in force at the time.

Also if you look at the history of successive Governments, both Labour and conservatives have made decisions and agreements with the EU without consulting the electorate in every case.

It comes with democracy. You elect a member of Parliament and by winning the election he (or she) has the mandate of his constituents to vote upon, or take whatever action they deem appropriate to protect, or the welfare of the people of whom they represent.

Answer 3

I think that those who put their lives on the line would support any organisation which encouraged peace in Europe.

I don't think you have the right to hijack the thinking of those who fought bravely for this country in two world wars and use it to support your political agenda.

The Labour government, should call either a referendum or a general election on the EU constitution / treaty. Not because referendums are necessary, but because it was an election pledge.

Your emotive use of the dead of two world wars to support a political point is crass and spurious.

EDIT: Elvis - you are full of crap and you know it. You have no idea about the motivation of those who fought for this country, and until you do so yourself, you are not qualified to speculate. I agree that we should have a vote on the EU, but only because the Labour Party made it an election commitment. You can resent my assertion all you like, but to drag the dead of two world wars into the argument is crass.

Answer 4

I agree with you.
This Labor party has sold the British people out.

Answer 5

I understood the referendum was in the labour mandate, I expected that to be honoured it wasn't, no explanation is acceptable if I remember correctly they were elected on that mandate is that not so.

Answer 6

I think many would be asking "What was the point? " and some would be saying "just as long as it prevents another war"
However i get a feeling that no European population wishes to be governed by Brussels it is only the politicians who want to be on the big gravy train

Answer 7

My dad fought for Britain in WWII and my grandfather and 5 great uncles fought for Britain in WWI.

I think I can speak for them when I say

NO!

My dad would have been bloody well horrified!! God Rest his Soul. I'm just glad he'd not here to see the mess "New" Lie-bour have made of the country he laid his life on the line for.

Answer 8

Get this right you idiot. A Labour government never wanted to join the EU. The original six countries asked GB to lead the EEC back in the fifties; however that numpty Eden said "No". That gay boy who did his cottaging known as Heath got us in the EEC (a Tory). It was the Wilson government who gave us a referendum in 1975. The people voted "yes" to the EEC.
This is what you call a democracy.
Lets get this right its not whether its right or wrong to be in the EU; its the best deal we can get within. 55% of our trade is done with the EU. If we decided to leave we could not afford the tariffs imposed.
Don't come off with the crass cliche, "We'll deal with the Commenwealth and the USA". If they wanted to increase their trade, they would be doing it now.
I thought after that numpty tory IDS tried this "way of thought" a few years ago; would end this anti EU question; it hasn't we still have numpties about like you!

Answer 9

Do you think they would rather have been over run by the Nazis and sent to death camps than have a constitution for the EU?

Answer 10

i think they would be more dismayed with the current state of Britain - petty laws, lack of justice, illegal immigrants, etc... sod all this i am going to live in Spain!