Senior Nurses allowed to decide on resuscitation?

Question

Could they be open to bribes?

Example

A man or a woman could stop breathing or their heart could stop and the Senior Nurse on duty decides if they should be brought back to life or not What if a partner/husband/wife didn't want that person to survive for what ever reason? Nurses are on rubbish pay for the job that they do. They could be offered a large sum of money to not resuscitate that person. I know a lot of people will say NO due to ethics & being professional but a large sum of money could change their lives.

So I have two questions for you

1 - Could senior nurses be open to bribes?

2 - If you were a senior nurse and money was tight. Would you accept a large money bribe not to resuscitate a person?

Answer 1

very scary.....i was advised by a senior nurse to chat to my father about placing my very sick mother on a morphine iv, and called pathway for the dying.....the nurse told me my mother was very ill and would not live longer than a few more days.....i refused......my mother regained consciousness and is now back at home, so frankly..i wouldn't trust any of them.

Answer 2

As a nurse I am somewhat insulted by your question, however I have come to the awareness that most people have no idea what our job is really like.

I have never ever heard of a nurse being offered a large bribe for any reason. Sometimes we are offered small gifts after a recovery or other health care event, but we are required to refuse gifts in most circumstances. This does not include thank you cards and a box of donuts for the entire ward staff for example.

Everyone should get a living will done far in advance of getting old and sick. Be warned, just having an living will and or advanced directives in place does not mean your wishes will be carried out. The staff attending you, or your dying loved one, needs to be made aware of their wishes. When a code blue is called, the cascade of events does not include stopping tolook for the fine print.

Sometimes the DNR (do not recusitate) order is right on the front of the chart with a colorful sticker or something similar to make it hard to miss. In Canadian hospitals and chronic care homes, DNR orders are often dicussed with family in advance, though not always. A personally created legal document will not be known about unless the person or family makes mgt and staff aware.

Most people are also unaware of what really happens when medical, and or people in general, perform CPR, especially on old persons. It is nothing like what you see on TV. For anyone over 55 who has CPR performed on them, many will suffer broken ribs, and other serious injury. These injuries happen even when the person doing the CPR does it perfectly. The very few who are brought back from a stopped heart are often in terrible shape, and many of them die of their heart attack, and CPR injuries, in a few days. Most of these never regain conciousness, and often block a hospital bed than may have benefited someone with some chance of surviving to contribute to their community in the future.

I try and make people near the end of life aware of the options, and I believe that accepting full DNR status is a good choice. To add to the confusion there are levels of do nots, like using doing CPR and using the defibrilator are ok but drugs, and feeding tubes are not, etc.

I will gladly not try and bring you back from a massive heart attack for free, however only if you clearly ask.

Answer 3

The important point in this question is that once again, this government has bottled out and not spelled out the parameters, of this situation.
Their words "Suitably qualified Nurses" tells us nothing.
If a Senior Nurse went sick and a replacement was obtained
from a nursing agency would this person also be able to make the decision, of who lived and who died????

Wouldf anybody check if a Nurse from an agency, was qualified to make this sort of decision?? If so , who would do this??

This is just another example of this government, trying to do things on the cheap, in order to balance the books, which are
in a desperate state.

Finally, I have an enormous respect for all Nursing Staff, and
I'm still waiting for the government, to show the same respect
and explain, how these Nurses are going to receive, extra
training and EXTRA PAY, for this huge increase in responsibility.

P.S. Sorry if I didn't answer your question, the way you asked it.

Answer 4

dumplingmuffin,

The nursing profession is full of morally degenerate b-itches these days, isnt' it? Listen, you are not qualified to judge how much dignity a person has, or what the quality of life the person has, or how long the person will live. No, you do not even remotely anything that resembles the moral character and judgment ability to say the garbage that you espoused. Read Moon-Witch's answer and learn some humility.

In fact, I can just as easily make a judgment on the amount of dignity that YOU have left, the quality of life that YOU lead, and most importantly how long YOU will live for. And if I were to give you my two cents for what you are now, you'd have to give me back change.

If I ever find you laying unconscious at my feet, I will just kick you aside, and stomp on your face hard.

Answer 5

1) Nurse are human, so yes they will be open to bribesm but I think the reason they are in the profession will prevent them from taking it.
2) No I would not take a bribe as I would then live the rest of my life looking over my shoulder,

Answer 6

No, there would be strict guidelines drawn up, and in place, then her assessment would follow this, answering a certain amount of questions.
The result would be drawn from the information gathered, and would be transparent for all to see. Don't forget these things are hung at the foot of the bed.
Nurses don't do covert things, all the paperwork is available in the file at the bottom of the bed.

And question 2) never as however skint I was wouldn't compare to living in fear, or with that guilt.

Answer 7

i think they could definitely be open to bribes. There have been nurses throughout history that didn't revive / or helped kill someone for NO money.

If someone was a senior nurse and money was tight, they would have to be a pychopath to take a bribe to not resuscitate someone dont you think?

Answer 8

i believe anyone & everyone can be brought
if the price is right.
how this is going to help since the NHS has now decided on organ donation being an opting out system,
rather than an opting in.
nurses will have a bit more pressure on them than just family, friends, etc etc, worrying about inheritance,
considering the pressure on organ waiting-lists!
maybe they will start playing god.

now that's just made my blood run cold,
praps i better not think like that.
:(

Answer 9

Kind of verging on the ridiculous and in any case the same scenario is just as valid for the doctors who perform the task now.

Answer 10

im not sure how you dare ask a question like that, do you really think other staff would not notice.im not sure what planet you live on as it would take an awfull lot of money to replace your job and support your family whilst your in prison