Aren't atheists just contradicting reality?

Question

Its so typical, I wont believe something that goes beyond my puny little mind. I wont believe something I cant see, well you cant see the billions of billions of galaxy, does that mean they dont exist? Fact is even if God hit you over the head you'd still find a way or reason to reject it.

Lets see, most of you atagonists use science to try to prove your weak hyposthesis, actually quite pathetic considering the greatest scientists that ever lived believe in a higher entity, Einstein and Hawking. I did not say religion for you that try to be slick, I said they believe in a higher entity. So my question is, how do you conclude, based on your interpretation of reality, that we somehow came from nothing? Isnt that impossible, I mean you try to use science against us, yet the very basis of your thinking contradicts your hypothesis'. Something cant come from nothing, Einstein realized that, so are you saying you're smarter than him?

Answer 1

I'm a Christian with a question for you: do you think your question would be better received if you didn't have so much "nyah nyah nyah I'm right and you're stoopid because you're wrong" attitude to it?

I mean, you bring up some good points, but because you're asking it in a way that is clearly contentious, who's going to give it any serious thought? You're baiting atheists, not really asking a question.

Answer 2

Firstly you can see many of the Galaxies with a Telescope so that argument goes out the wondow. I don't believe in God because there is NO concrete evidence for his existence, there's no concrete evidence for the existence of Santa Claus, the tooth Fairy and the flying Spaghetti monster. If you believe they exist I'd report to your nearest psychiatric ward immediately.

Einstein was an atheist, his comment about "God does not throw dice" was about his problems with quantum mechanics not a literal statement meaning that God exists. There are many more quotes that denote he didn't believe in God: I

received your letter of June 10th. I have never talked to a Jesuit priest in my life and I am astonished by the audacity to tell such lies about me. From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and have always been an atheist. [Albert Einstein to Guy H. Raner Jr, July 2, 1945, responding to a rumor that a Jesuit priest had caused Einstein to convert from atheism. Article by Michael R. Gilmore in Skeptic magazine, Vol. 5, No. 2, 1997]

Hawking has said many times that he has no need for a God, but he would probably class himself as an agnostic rather than an atheist.

So neither Einstein or Hawking are believers. Sorry, try again.

Answer 3

I agree with Chicky concerning Einstein's belief. He claimed to believe in the laws that govern the universe i.e. the laws of Physics. Whenever he used the word "god" he, as many physicists in his day, used it as a metaphorical word for the universe itself and all that constitutes it. As for the something from nothing argument, theories have been given for how human life can come from nothing. It requires more than evolution and natural selection which can only work when life already exists. The answers as printed in "The Anthropic Cosmological Principle" are referred to as the anthropic principles. The basically state that since the universe is so massive in size, it is possible that out of the billions of planets that are capable of sustaining life, it is not only possible but also probable that life with from by the chance encounter of the required materials to create the first organism on at least one planet.

Answer 4

You said in part "Lets see, most of you atagonists"

Your whole question is antagonistic. Christians spouting hateful nonsense such as yours, is the reason why so many people are turned off to Christianity.

Yes, matter can not be created or destroyed, just because you can't wrap your mind around that, doesn't mean "God did it".

Your God is nothing more than the God of the gaps.

Thanks for the 2 pts.

Answer 5

There's a difference between "sight" and "observation." We can make various observations that confirm the existence of those galaxies.

We can't make any observations confirming the existence of God.

I don't conclude that we came from nothing. There was never an empty universe because matter and energy cannot be created/destroyed. If you want to call me pathetic, I suggest you at least read a textbook on the Big Bang.

Answer 6

Something can't come from nothing so right away your answer is a god? You can't understand the complexities of life and reality so your simple, childish, and unrealistic view is that a god did it all? And where did you get the idea that we came from nothing? The Big Bang does not suggest that, evolution certainly doesn't suggest that. It is just much easier for that simple mind of yours to believe that some god created us from dirt and everything else around us from nothing. Fairie tales are much easier to believe for many people I guess.

Answer 7

First of all, why do you have to hate on other people's beliefs. So you believe in God and are adamat about it. Perhaps something in your life that has happened to make you believe in miracles. Someone who hasnt had this experience doesnt need to believe in God, and is adamant about it. Who is wrong, honestly? Nobody will know and its pointless to keep having these arguments and telling people they will go to hell or whatever because they dont believe what you do. Maybe the universe was just always there. Again, we'll never know. Just keep to yourself and stop trying to make trouble...everyone.

Answer 8

But Stephen Hawkins IS an Atheist:

"There would be no singularities at which the laws of science broke down and no edge of space-time at which one would have to appeal to God or some new law to set the boundary conditions for space-time . . . The universe would be completely self-contained and not affected by anything outside itself. It would neither be created nor destroyed. It would just BE . . . What place, then, for a creator?"

And Einstein, while being extremely bright, was also very introverted in his ideas. He spent the last two decades of his life battling Quantum Theory - some of contrary arguments have now been disproven.

Now, you need to know this:

ALMOST ALL CREDIBLE SCIENTISTS ARE ATHEISTS.

Answer 9

not an athiest, but...
atheists do not claim to know everything, but there is no single thiest tradition that is the 'default' position any more than lack of proof that the Tooth Faerie does not exist means she does.

Einstein and Hawking were/are closer to Deism and even atheism than they were to thesitic traditions. Einstein highly resented theists' attempt to co-opt him to their camp.

scientific views are not automatically greater based on who endorses them, but what the evidence (or lack thereof) suggests. in science, there is nothing wrong with saying "I don't know" if the evidence is inconclusive.

No one is using science against you, unless you are tring to replece genuine science with pseudo-science; please drop the false persecution complex.

Answer 10

No, I am not smarter than Einstein, who in fact got pretty aggravated at becoming a poster child for theism when he was not a theist. His concept of god was that of an impersonal universal order. Were you not aware of that?

We do not contradict reality, we *accept* it, which god-wishers cannot do.

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