Honestly, yes it does open for more "chain" immigration, but do you guys honestly think that kids who were brought to the country illegally, when they were too young to even know what illegal meant, should just be deported? Picture yourself coming to the US at age 5. You don't speak your native language, you dont know anyone or anything about your native country.. you've gone to US schools your entire life.. your entire life is in America. friends, family, culture, lifestyle.. yet there is one thing seperating you from everyone else you know.. where you were born. is that even ethical!?
2007-10-25 23:10:22 · 20 answers · asked by jhsm85 3 in Politics & Government ➔ Immigration
There is both a moral and ethical difference between being in a country illegally, and raping or killing someone.
Many things have been illegal in the world, but the word illegal is often something completely different from the word wrong.
2007-10-25 23:46:50 · update #1
I don't understand how someone could go to school their whole lives, attend college, and join the military without their immigration status being known. This just shows that our laws aren't being enforced. If our laws were being enforced, we wouldn't have children growing up in the U.S. while illegally here.
2007-10-25 23:16:01 · answer #1 · answered by speaking_my_mind 3 · 9⤊ 0⤋
Before I answer this question I want to make a few things clear. Being against the Dream Act is not racist or being biased. Racism is based on biology and not ethnicity or religion. The majority of the American people are not prejudice against Mexicans or other foreigners. They are simply against illegal immigration because it is against the law and it is causing long term social and economic problems that will take more than 50 years to solve. How many times have we made references to the immigration laws and the ugly history of American big businesses who hire illegal immigrants? You know all the facts by now Tony. Why are you still asking these questions? But to answer your question is simply not fair and is de facto amnesty for illegal immigrants. What about the US Citizens who were born and raised here? Where are their Dream Acts? Additional Comments: Mexican is a nationality and not a race, nationality is man-made and race is not. Five nationalities can be of the same race. And there are a lot of Spanish-descended Americans that are very opposed to illegal immigration. Plus, there are a lot of prejudiced Mexicans.
2016-04-10 06:49:21 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I am going to answer this one more time, then I think I am going on strike on this question.
1. We pay $10,000 per child per year for education while those kids are here in grades k-12. Those funds, that space in overcrowded schools, and those programs cause programs to be cut for our own kids. When will that be addressed? And extending the problem to universities is punishing US and our children. What did WE do wrong and whose benefits did we wrongfully benefit from? A child of someone who stole something may not be at fault, but the kid doesn't get to keep what was taken and get even more once the parent is caught. You are framing the issue wrong.
2. Starting from my position that reform of immigration laws needs to focus primarily on repairing the impact to our schools and services for our own people caused by too many too poor to pay their way coming and using those services, I could still support a narrowly tailored Dream act.
WHY should that include chain migration rather than a 'blue card' for residency only for that person, and WHY should it have 'waivers' for family unity etc to waive reasons we wouldn't let other people legally come, to begin with?
WHY should it go to age 30, and why not have a cut off for only those already here 5 years?
You and everyone else base sympathy for this act on 'the good high school student who did every thing right and would now go to college'. Why doesn't it only cover those people?
It sure looked like they were trying to crowbar the exception to the rule open to let in as many as they thought they could get away with, and they didn't add funding to Universities impacted, at all.
Aren't there more constructive ways we could address this?
2007-10-26 05:04:10 · answer #3 · answered by DAR 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
It's a shame that the illegal alien parents put their children in this position, HOWEVER, that is their fault, not the fault of the United States. Our country isn't responsible for righting every parental wrong. Unfortunately, when parents make bad decisions, sometimes innocent children have to suffer. It may not be "fair" but the harsh reality is that a government can't reward criminal behavior unless they are willing to accept more of the same behavior. Rewarding these young adults with "easy" citizenship when others are denied (others who HAVE followed our laws) just isn't fair either. Why should THEY suffer in their countries because illegal alien parents decided to break the law?
I'm sorry, but this precedent can't be set. It's a shame for the children of these parents, but lots of things in life aren't fair. The unethical act created was the illegal entry into a country that wasn't their own. Children have to suffer for illegal acts of their parents all the time. It's a consequence of breaking the laws.
You are making a very good argument, by the way, for denying illegal alien children public education. If they aren't allowed to go to free schools, perhaps their parents will think harder about destroying their future. They don't seem to be considering it at all now.
2007-10-26 00:02:16 · answer #4 · answered by Lori K 7 · 5⤊ 1⤋
America is enforcing laws that are civial and just. These children are not American citizens, and are only being returned to their mother country..... DO NOT make this sound like a human rights issue, or some sort of ethnic cleansing. Their parents made a very bad desicion, and now want to use their children as leverage. If we allow them a free pass then others will follow suit, and do the same. We need to stand firm aginst those that wish to take advantage of our good nature.
Deport illegals, and keep the dream alive.
2007-10-26 02:08:45 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 1⤋
Still having that problem with the word illegal? You back door efforts to give amnesty to the illegals will not work and I do not care how many kids you parade in front of me.
let me make this plain enough. If you are in this country illegally, get the heck out now. I am for total enforcement of the law. If you are caught here illegally you WILL be deported never to return.
2007-10-26 00:41:57 · answer #6 · answered by bootsontheroad 6 · 5⤊ 1⤋
The sins of the parents are visited on the children, this from Biblical times. What has changed? Bad parents make bad decisions and the children must contend with their decisions. I certainly don't think the USA should have to pay for the bad parenting of illegal aliens! Get over their propaganda, we did what was right.
2007-10-26 06:34:54 · answer #7 · answered by Ms.L.A. 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
What is wrong is that I can not pay for my own Daugther to go to college, yet my taxes would be used to send "illegals" to college. For every one illegal that is granted a green card, times that number by 50 more because human right activists would say it is not morally right to separate these young humans from their "loving families".
If they wanted this Dream Act to pass they would not of included a college education. It would of explained that at a time of war we need more people in the military and citizen-ship would be granted after four complete years in the military to each enlisted person, their spouse and child, not their parents, grandparents and thousands of cousins.
They knew this Dream Act could not pass as worded, but it bought a few politicians a bunch of votes. Why do you think it was named the "Dream Act"??
2007-10-26 00:26:35 · answer #8 · answered by pacer 5 · 4⤊ 1⤋
You know as a parent you are suppose to make safe and sensible choices for your child, coming to the states as an illegal is not one of them. You must be aware of the consequences of your actions and what effect this will have on your child when you cross the border illegally
It may not be the child's fault that they were brought here, but they are having to deal the the result of a bad decision their parent made by not following US immigration law.
2007-10-26 01:54:15 · answer #9 · answered by Mama~peapod 6 · 6⤊ 1⤋
Illegal is illegal, it is criminal and wrong. I do not care what age you are you are breaking our laws and should be deported. Below is a letter I received from Tancredo yesterday on this new Amnesty bill. Enjoy the read
My recent letter from Tancredo
THE ‘DREAM’ ACT…….IT’S A NIGHTMARE!
Dear ,
When you get this note, the U.S. Senate may already be voting on a motion to close debate on S. 2205, the preposterously named “DREAM” (“Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors) Act, that will grant amnesty to the millions of illegal aliens who entered the United States before the age of 16.
My friend, the “DREAM” Act really is a nightmare!
It makes a mockery of our immigration laws, and it will cause a further flood of illegals into this country, who will know that their children can enjoy key benefits of citizenship without being citizens. It is a massive amnesty bill – the Center for Immigration Studies estimates it will grant amnesty to at least 2.1 million illegal aliens currently in the United States!
What’s worse, this bill makes it possible for the newly-amnestied aliens to secure green cards for the parents who illegally brought them into the country in the first place!
The fight for the “DREAM” Act is being led by Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Illinois), one of the most intensely open-border members of Congress. This measure was part of the Kennedy-McCain-Bush “comprehensive immigration reform” bill that we defeated earlier this summer.
Just like we predicted, the Hispanic and big business lobbies are not giving up on their pro-amnesty agenda…..they’ve just decided on new tactics to get around their inability to pass an omnibus amnesty bill. Instead, they are trying to chip away at our immigration laws one piece at a time!
Let me restate this: the “DREAM” Act is amnesty!
If cloture passes, and the Senate is preparing to vote in the next day or two on the “DREAM” Act, you and every American should be on the phone to your Senators telling them to vote “NO!” And if cloture fails, and Senate debate resumes, then we all should be ready to make our voices heard as well! We must fight just as hard against the “DREAM” Act as we did against the Kennedy-McCain-Bush bill this summer.
2007-10-26 04:28:38 · answer #10 · answered by LadyAmerican 4 · 1⤊ 1⤋