Cepheus, not perfect, but forgiven
2007-10-25 16:21:46
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answer #1
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answered by Hannah's Grandpa 7
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Lets put it this way:
I think Paul did see the savior in his big conversion moment...but that aside, lets remember historical context. Paul was very big on getting people to stop following the Mosaic law - which he saw as completely works-based, and faithless. He was trying to get these people to lay that aside and learn faith; which is important considering it's the first principle of the Gospel.
James then completed the picture by noting the other extreme is also pretty useless. To have faith or belief, but not to act on that belief, is a pretty good way to kill that faith. (Remember Paul talked about having Charity too - which is a principle of action and works).
So basically, I believe them both, that either extreme, of just faith, or just works alone isn't good. They both must work together, and build one another for the perfecting of the saints.
2007-10-25 16:32:45
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answer #2
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answered by daisyk 6
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Paul does not teach faith alone. Paul,James and Jesus are not in conflict:grace saves through faith which works through love. Faith is a grace that must be lived.
2007-10-25 16:20:36
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answer #3
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answered by James O 7
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"There is no free lunch."
Even salvation isn't free... Jesus expects us to at least do our best, and he'll do the rest.
If I were in a pit more than oh, say 6 feet deep, there's no way I'd be able to get out alone!... But Jesus is up top with a rope (grace). The thing is, that even though I have faith that Jesus' rope is there- long enough, strong enough, it won't do me any good unless I tie it around me (works?). Shouting halelujia that there's a rope won't save me. Telling everyone I see that there's a rope won't save me. I gotta USE the rope!....
2007-10-25 17:53:38
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answer #4
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answered by Yoda's Duck 6
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Paul says that faith without works is dead too.
Paul writes in Ephesians 2:8-10:
For it is by grace you have been saved through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works so that no one can boast. For we are God’s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do. (v 10)
That verse has been taken out of context. They stop at nine.
Silly protestants.
2007-10-28 07:57:04
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answer #5
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answered by Anonymous
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All the Bible was written FOR us to learn of God's nature and his relationship with man throughout history.
The Pauline epistles were written TO us for today. He did meet with Jesus on the road to Damascus. The Old Testament and the Gospels were written to the Jews ,the apostles were even told NOT to go to the Gentiles. Jesus was ignoring the Gentile woman with a possessed daughter (Matt.15:22) until she recognized herself as a dog(Gentile).
God plan was for the Jews to evangelize the world after His death and resurrection, they rejected Him so he went to the Gentiles to make them jealous. This was why the apostle Paul was sent to us. Jesus told him what to tell us.
James was written for those here after the rapture when things go back to the way they were before the Jews rejected Christ.
Not reading and studying the Bible according to who each book was written is very confusing.
If anyone would like any assistance I would be glad to help in any way I can,
please email me.
If you only wish to argue, please do not.
I hope I was some help...
2007-10-27 23:45:04
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answer #6
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answered by Anonymous
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Nowhere does Paul say faith alone saves. The writer of Hebrews equates works with faith. Everyone listed in the Hebrews 11: hall of fame says their works = their faith in other words. It takes both. Either one alone is dead. There are many, many scriptures that stress this fact.
2007-10-25 16:25:57
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answer #7
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answered by mesquiteskeetr 6
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I follow Christ and can look at the Bible in context and as a whole without relying on a single verse to provide a platform for following an incomplete belief.
I believe we are saved by both faith and works, as they go hand in hand, and when it comes down to it in the end, we will all fall short, but we will be saved by the grace of Christ if exercise our faith through our works.
2007-10-25 16:18:08
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answer #8
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answered by moonman 6
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I follow Jesus. That said, if you read James with eyes of grace than it is clear that really they are saying the same thing. James was touched by the love of God. He didn't write his book for any other reason. He LOVED Jesus, he was set free by his grace. Also, he was just a practical man, what he speaks is practical, but in no way condemning. Read it with grace-filled eyes.
2007-10-25 16:21:25
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answer #9
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answered by Teha4 3
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James and Paul were both servants of Jesus, we are to heed their teaching but follow Christ.
2007-10-25 16:31:00
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answer #10
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answered by saintrose 6
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Paul never said that faith "alone" allows for salvation. There is no contrariety between Paul and James. The conflict is between Martin Luther and James. And it doesn't help that all English Bibles were translated by devout Augustinians (most of them Calvinist).
2007-10-25 16:20:28
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answer #11
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answered by NONAME 7
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