Yo atheists! why don't you ppl admit this?

Question

before the big bang happened, there was Primordial elements; so the journey of universe began from this elements. so even science is admitting that there was a start. why dont u ppl believe this START might have started from the GOD. Have a think!!!

Answer 1

Yo..... the "Big Bang Theory" was created by a Catholic Priest (ie: Christian). And, for your information, I don't buy it and I'm not Christian. Then again, I don't think that humans will ever know the answers to how the universe came to be.... nor will we ever be able to see the massiveness of it to really test all our little human theories or beliefs.

The fact is, the earth is here, the universe is here, you are here and I am here (all of these things can be proven)... But where is this God you speak of?

Answer 2

Here are my thoughts on your question.

I wonder if you actually had a "think" as researched as what follows.

Rob

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This problem is known as negative progression. Simple put, it is the assertion that everything must have a cause.

This assertion has not been proved. Rather, it is often taken as a mere premise, which may or may not be correct.

Assume for the moment that it is true; everything must have cause. Our parents came from their parents, their parents come from their parents, and so on.

Which, if this line of thinking is taken to the extreme, then the question remains, where did our original parents come from?

Many religions would say that their god created the first human beings, that their god is the "unmoved mover". This is also one of St. Thomas Aquinas' so-called proofs of God.

However, if one is to play this game of negative progression, then they would also have to define what caused their god. Since everything must have a cause, then their god must also have a cause.

Its considered cheating if someone were to change the rules of a game while in the middle of playing. And this is where most, if not all, religions fail in honesty or logic (your choice).

If a religion were to claim that their god was the start of everything else, they would have to prove the following;

1) The negative progression problem is an valid premise.
2) The negative progression problem has a solution
3) This solution has been solved by their religion
4) There was only one cause, and not multiple causes
5) Their god was the cause of everything else.

This is a tall order to fulfill.

Again, this approach is considered cheating. One can also make the assertion that a unicorn, a dragon, or other mystical beast created the world. Note that this not so far fetched as you might believe.

Having a book that says so does not make this assertion true - there have been many books and documents that claim other deities were the cause of the world and universe.

No one knows where everything originally came from. And that includes you too ;)

Rob

Answer 3

"before the big bang happened, there was Primordial elements"
-- Not sure what you even mean there, but you don't know that any more than we do.

"so the journey of universe began from this elements. "
-- THESE elements, and we don't know.

"so even science is admitting that there was a start. "
-- Science is not a person and cannot admit anything.

"why dont u ppl believe this START might have started from the GOD."
-- As long as he's not self-contradictory it could have. Bible god is though so it wasn't him.

Answer 4

The Big Bang is a theory that explains the observed increase in density and temperature of the Universe in the past. We can see the past because of the finite speed of light.

The Big Bang theory is known to fail for times before a fraction of a second after the "Bang" itself. So the Big Bang theory itself says nothing about the origin of the Universe, only how it evolves from a fraction of a second after the origin until now.

In any case, it is likely that the total amount of matter and energy in the Big Bang was zero---the positive and negative energies cancelling out. There certainly were no "Primordial Elements".

My point is, that scientific theory makes no claims about the start of the Big Bang. If you want to say "God did it", that's a valid hypothesis. There is, however, no evidence for this. You're simply inserting "God" into the gap in our knowledge. This gap in our knowledge may or may not be filled in the future, for example when a unified field theory is developed that includes gravity with the other forces.

Answer 5

There has yet to be any evidence that this beginning you speak of has anything to do with a higher power. The very limited knowledge we have of this event points to things that happened scientifically. The "I don't know, so God must have done it" is not a logical statement to me.

Science also admits that there was a start to life on earth as well, but just like the Big Bang, it has no evidence that this start was from a higher power.

Answer 6

I cannot speak for everyone, but I don't believe there was "a beginning", at least not as described by Christians. I believe everything is cyclical in nature, in that things are born, grow old and die, to be reborn anew. The Cosmos, I believe, has always been, though universes and galaxies are born, destroyed, and reborn everyday. The laws of physics have proved that energy can neither be created nor destroyed, though it can, and often does, alter its form.

Answer 7

"Primordial elements"??? Wow you have discovered something physicists have been serarching for and have yet to find!

What was before the Big Bang!

You must be a mathematical genius! Wow!


*rolls eyes*

Answer 8

Reactions in atmosphere created the first living cells. So you're saying God created the atmosphere so that billions of years later it would evolve into the race he really wants to care for? Great point.

Answer 9

I love coming here - the fundie comedy is fine.
The irony is always at its best and second best is this type of thing.
Someone who thinks he's really bright making statements asserting that he's not nearly as bright as he thinks.

Samuel Johnson: 'Tis better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
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Answer 10

You know what, I am not a scientist and if scientists don't know YET, then I sure don't. But what I've seen for evidence of a god is nill. If this GOD did start it...where is he now? There's no evidence for him after THOUSANDS of years after supposedly speaking to Moses. I don't believe he exists. If we find out some day that he does, then fine. I'm not stubborn. I just need proof for it to make sense to me. I will not believe without proof and/or evidence. That does not make you better than me or me better than you. It is what it is.

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