Studding out my lab?

Question

A friend of mine want to breed his female with my male. My only question is what am i supposed to get? My grandpa said pick of the litter, but i dont want any more dogs... So do i ask for money? I'm a little unsure since i've never done this before. This is mine and my dogs first time! Thanks for any help!!

Seriously, i'm not looking for a lecture, so save it. Keep your opinions to yourself. I wasnt posting a question asking how many dogs die a year, i want to know how much to stud my dog out for and if you arent answering that question, dont answer at all.

He is totally papered and has been to the vet and they gave him a thumbs up to breed!!

Answer 1

I'm changing my entire answer.

How much will it cost to convince you NOT to breed him?

What amount would the check have to be for?

Answer 2

Just becuase the vet said he's healthy enough to be bred doesn't mean he should be, or that the female should be bred. If either dog is an American Lab (tall and skinny with narrow head, shoulders, and hips) they're just pets and there are a ton of pet Labs homeless already. If both dogs are English Labs (shorter, with broader head, shoulders, and hips) you need to make sure they're good specimens of the breed - that they could do the sorts of work that Labs do. You have to consider intelligence, willingness to learn, temperament with people and dogs/other animals, etc. You also want to know where both dogs came from. If they came from the same breeder or from breeders that interbreed often, you don't know enough about line breeding to decide if these dogs are suitable mates. If you think your dog is spectacular in some way, consider taking her to a show dog or working dog breeder and asking if they would hypothetically use him as a stud. The owner of the female should do the same. While you're there, ask this question.

Answer 3

1) having registration papers does not mean is is of breeding quality
2) a simple vet exam does not mean he should be bred

BEFORE standing ANY dog at stud (or breeding ANY female) the following needs to be done:
1) need to be at least 2 years old
2) need to have had and passed genetic testing...OFA/PennHip on elbows/hips, CERF/PRA on eyes, Brucellosis, thyroid..all of these are vitally important in Labs since this is a breed very prone to hip/elbow dysplasia and eye problems..they also are high on the list for thyroid.
3) shown and pointed or championed or evaluated by at least 3 unbiased, breed knowledgable people/judges
4) impeccible pedigree

If all of the above have been met then breeding can be considered...a stud fee in the amount of the price of 1 puppy is the usual however on occassion someone will do a pick puppy.
Be responsible and breed correctly if you are thinking of breeding..also be aware that standing at stud can change your dog//he can began marking territory including in the house, become aggressive with other dogs, loose weight, become whiney, etc.

Answer 4

I would have to agree with CIndy and every one else.

No need to add to the overpopulation of dogs, let alone labs.

Posting a question like this in the dog forum is going to prompt responses that you don't like.

But darling, if you actually cared about your dog and the betterment of the breed and saving the breed, you would get your male neutered and your friend would get his female spayed.

You are clearly doing it for the money. There is no doubt about it.

SPAY and NEUTER people, SPAY and NEUTER! Then rescue if you want a puppy or another dog!

Answer 5

If it's your first time, then you need more information than just how much money should change hands.

This link should help you:

http://www.champdogsforum.co.uk/board/topic/55104.html

The papers mean nothing. All that means is that your dog really is a labrador retriever. Nothing more.

Vet said he's OK? Maybe, his GENERAL health is ok, but again it doesn't mean he's suitable for breeding.

Labrador retrievers are very susceptible to hip dysplacia. Did you get his hip scores done?

After all that - you want to know how much money you should charge your friend . The answer is "as much as you consider reasonable". Could be free, could be £5000. Work it out between you (if you REALLY want to go ahead and do this - personally I'd advise against it).

Answer 6

Geeezzz!!!! You are not looking for a lecture, but you are going to get quite a few! What a selfish, heartless attitude toward dog's lives! On Petfinder there is NO OTHER BREED that even comes close to the 16,930 -I SAID 16,930 homeless labs in this country. That's sixteen thousand nine hundred and thirty homeless labs.
This does not even include the ones in the three day kill shelters who are dying as we speak.
Your disregard of life is not something I would be proud of, or even let anyone else know about.

Answer 7

You should ask the other breeders at the shows or field trials you attend, or some other members of your breed club.

Really, if you don't know anything about breeding I suggest you don't.

Your male will be more likely to roam, lift his leg on the furniture, be aggressive, and hump things afterwards.

But if you decide to go ahead, make sure the female has been tested for brucellosis, which is an STD.
http://www.wildsidekennels.com/articles/brucellosis.html

"Canine Brucellosis is a very serious disease, not because dogs are very likely to contract the disease, but because of the consequences if a dog does become infected. The disease itself will not kill your dog, but your dog will be genetically ‘dead because he or she will be unbreedable -- even if the disease does not render the dog sterile. A dog that has tested positive for Brucellosis should not be bred, not even by artificial insemination. Bringing one infected dog into a breeding program could wipe out years of work establishing a family of dogs.

Additionally, because of the threat of transmitting the disease to humans, if you have a dog that tests positive for the disease in some states the health department can demand the dog be destroyed."

There is also the possibility of injury to your male, either because the female does not want to be bred and attacks him (yes, it happens) or more likely because the female struggles and tries to break away while they are tied.

Remember, if the puppies have problems, it's the stud dog that gets the blame.

EDIT: You asked a question on a public forum, we can give any answer we please. Deal with it.

EDIT2: ICANSEERIGHTTHROUGHYOU - yeah, us "dog snobs" had to start somewhere...and where we started was by learning as much as we could about dogs, our breed, and breeding BEFORE we ever started breeding dogs. I'm talking YEARS. 'Cause we take what we do seriously. I was "in dogs" 11 years before I had my first litter.

EDIT3:>>>He is totally papered<<<

Big deal, all that means is that his parents were registered, it doesn't mean he's any good for breeding

>> and has been to the vet and they gave him a thumbs up to breed!!<<

So your vet took hip and elbow x-rays and OFA has certified them? He's passed a CERF exam? He's been tested for PRA?

I didn't think so.

Answer 8

You can get pick of the litter or a stud fee. Usually the stud fee is the same amount that the person is selling one of the puppies for. So say she sold her puppies for $100 each you would get $100, if she sold them for $500 each you would get $500. Some people charge the stud fee at the time of mating, others charge the fee once the puppies are sold. It is up to you when to charge it!

Answer 9

Breeding is way more complicated than just putting 2 registered dogs of the same breed together. You have to OFA both the dogs and have them at least a good rating, plus many other genetic testing to ensure neither dog is passing on a genetic defect to the litter. Then there are diseases that can pass between the male and female that can kill a dog and both should be tested for that.

There's so much you really should know before even considering this. Breeding should never be profitable. If you are making money, you are doing something wrong.

ADDED: AKC papers do not mean a dog is of breeding quality. Any AKC papered dog can be full of faults and riddled with genetic issues. If you are not doing the proper testing, you will be an irresponsible breeder. WELCOME TO THE RANKS OF BACKYARD BREEDERS.

Answer 10

Because you have no clue what you are doing, I am NOT going to save my lecture. I will tell you that you are irresponsible if you breed your dog only because your friend wants you to, or because the vet gave him the "thumbs-up", whatever THAT means!
Leave the breeding to those who KNOW what they are doing, and neuter your dog!!

Answer 11

first,, your friend MUST research the background of his dog - note any incidences of hip dysplasia/ eye issues etc. and then try to figure out which line is producing it.... then you must do the same for your dog.. then BOTH of these dogs must be exrayed and confirmed free of hip dysplasia by OFA ( orthopedic foundation for animals) also they BOTH must be CERF'd ( canine eye registry),, then BOTH SHOULD be shown in conformation to see if they posess the traits that benefit the lab breed as a whole.. a total outcross breeding is a crap shoot. You must also make sure the b tch has a brucellosis test.. etc. etc.

if you still plan on doing the puppymill thing.. the stud dog owner gets the price of a pup... and since i am sure that you both are not committed to the required PRE-breeding testing. these pups will be worth about 100bucks.