I keep hearing claims from certain Christians that these programmes DO turn gay people straight. Yet, the only proof they can provide is personal testimonies from so-called ex-gay people and the unproven claims of the ex-gay organizations.
Even the study they love to quote from by Dr. Robert Spitzer, was based on 45-minute telephone interviews with 143 men and 57 women and has since been refuted and the claims adjusted drastically even by Sptizer himself because it was not scientific or objective as:
- the sample consisted predominantly of ex-gay activists recruited from anti-gay organizations. Of those who participated, 78 percent were paid spokespeople of these groups. So it was not an unbiased sample.
- The activists' testimonials were not crossed checked for reliability or validity with one-on-one psycho analysis or followed up to see if they were still straight
-40% of the particants were exclusively gay before they attempted to change, the majority were bi-sexual.
2007-10-25 07:50:17 · 6 answers · asked by pixie_pagan 4 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
- Dr. Spitzer conceeded later on in an interview by the New York Times that, despite the findings from his study, the participants were "unusually religious" and were not necessarily representative of most gay men and lesbians in the United States.
However there ARE ways of testing this more accurately.
Sexual response tests measure arousal and see if people respond more to heterosexual or homosexual erotica. This is a no fail test.
There is now something even better than the polygraph test. It is called the No Lie MRI. It represents the first and only direct measure of truth verification and lie detection in human history!
No Lie MRI uses techniques that bypass conscious cognitive processing and measure the activity of the central nervous system (brain and spinal cord) rather than the peripheral nervous system (as polygraph testing does).
But when asked to submit to these tests, ex-gay proponents refuse. WHY?
2007-10-25 07:54:44 · update #1
Gal From Yellow Flat, I am concerned as a therapist, as well as someone who has personally seen the ill effects of this on a family member.
When I researched this and discovered that thousands of people are adversely affected by these programmes, it REALLY disturbed me.
2007-10-25 08:06:06 · update #2
Two reasons:
One, (although this is merely a suspicion) there's no evidence to back it up.
Two, theism doesn't work on an empirical evidence basis; it's anecdotal and personal. It's only when evidence starts contradicting the claims made by theists that they suddenly get interested in their own research. Staying at the anecdotal level makes their goals easier to achieve, since they've already got an audience to work with (Christian gays who've internalized the self-loathing).
2007-10-25 08:04:22 · answer #1 · answered by Doc Occam 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
A poor fraud perpetrated on the cost of folk's emotional and non secular well-being. they have a shown track record... of low vanity, self-loathing, melancholy or per chance suicide. they have not were given any shown record of adjusting genuinely all and distinctive from gay to instantly. The founders of the biggest such bypass publicly admitted it would not paintings, and apologized for his or her area in it. regrettably, ignorant, faulty human beings proceed to attempt to persuade gay those that they are in a position to change into some element they do no longer seem to be. No, i'm no longer an atheist. i'm a Pentecostal minister who has had to address the aftermath of the ex-gay lie... attempting to position the products of folk again mutually as directly as they have been destroyed by such communities.
2016-10-22 23:45:18 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
They can't admitt the truth. Admitting the truth means, they would have to change, and that would allow room for improvement, but most of them think they are perfect, and can making allowances for certain things to be okay for them, but if anyone else does these certain things it is a SIN! oooooooooooooo.
2007-10-26 05:38:14 · answer #3 · answered by Colonel Brachend Parkholme 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
They don't want to be proven wrong. That is why they shut their mind to any questioning of their faith.
2007-10-25 08:01:58 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Why are you so worried about it?
2007-10-25 08:00:33 · answer #5 · answered by Gal from Yellow Flat 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Can you please learn how to spell.
2007-10-25 07:54:31 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 4⤋