Then why do we have both of these ideas?
Either
"God's justice was satisfied in the cross of Christ."
or
"God's justice demands eternal torment or annihilation."
2007-10-25 01:41:45 · 19 answers · asked by Emperor Insania Says Bye! 5 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
haha I misspelled a word.
Satisfied! :p
2007-10-25 01:48:35 · update #1
James L - either answer the question or move on. If you don't like my questions then ignore them.
You just wasted 1 second of my life since I read all the answers. Thanks buddy!
2007-10-25 01:49:47 · update #2
James L - I only gave you a thumbs down so I didn't have to keep looking at it wasting my time some more. Why did I give you a thumbs down? Because you ranted instead of answering the question.
2007-10-25 05:32:18 · update #3
alwisdom4u2 - I mean one negates the other. A lot of folks say both but they seemingly contradict each other.
2007-10-25 05:34:08 · update #4
the debt was paid in full for all the sins of the world
You have to accept the free gift.
i could buy you a present but until you open it you don't get the benefits of what it is.
just sits there waiting for you
waiting
waiting
then you die
2007-10-25 01:45:27 · answer #1 · answered by jesussaves 7 · 3⤊ 2⤋
I believe that there is no contradiction here. The "justice" God demands of the sinner is eternal torment or annihilation. The same Justice was served/satisfied/paid in our stead by Jesus Christ dying on the cross. It is now our choice to accept the gift of Christ dying in our place.
2007-10-25 09:02:33 · answer #2 · answered by OP-lo 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It is a delusion which has persisted for thousands of years that Jesus Christ was sent by God to die For the sins of mankind and that through His death on the cross He has redeemed them of their sins.
What a blasphemy is contained in this, Jesus came to show mankind the Will of his Father but mankind rejected Him and crucified Him on the cross at Golgotha.
The crime committed against Jesus returns back a hundred fold to those who at that time committed such crime.
We are now standing in the Judgement and evryone must reap what he/she has sown.
2007-10-25 08:56:16 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
You forget one vital factor:
Take the situation in which a judge has reason to grant a pardon to a convict.
The judge sends a man to the prison with one question: "If you were released from prison, what would you do?"
The convict answers, "I would put out a contract on the judge, the members of the jury, and my own lawyer for getting me in here."
My question for you: With the given response from the guilty party, even though the judge may WANT to grant a pardon, in all honesty, can he really do so?
God will grant a pardon to anyone who acknowledges their sins and repents (turns from living a self-centered selfish lifestyle). If God were to allow unrepentant sinners into heaven, heaven would soon become as corrupt as earth, and God will not allow that!
Now, think about this for a moment: a man doesn't want to live by the rules of the land. He has the freedom to choose a land in whose laws he IS willing to live by. Of course, in leaving the land (country, for instance), he also loses all the benefits, priviledges, and protection provided by that land.
Now, applying this to God, those who refuse to live by God's Laws (refer to the list of the 10 Commandments), they have the right to live elsewhere, not under God's jurisdiction. But remember this, the benefits, priviledges and protection that comes from living in God's kingdom will be lost.
Now you must ask what exactly ARE they? The Bible says that "ALL good things come from God".
Let's list a few "GOOD" things:
Love
Friends
Light
Freedom from pain
Joy
Peace
HOPE!
Imagine, living for all eternity with no hope!!!
God isn't forcing ANY one to live by His Laws, but the alternative is to live where God isn't, along with ALL that is good.
That's not God's desire, but He won't force ANY body, as I already pointed out. It's OUR choice to accept the free offer and live by His Laws or not, and it's OUR choice to live under His authority or not, but the consequences of those choices are OUR responsibility, not God's.
Got it?
2007-10-25 08:53:43 · answer #4 · answered by no1home2day 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
When Jesus died on the cross that took away the believer's sin but you still have to ask God to save you
2007-10-25 08:51:36 · answer #5 · answered by Me:) 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Jesus had made his decision to die for our Sins long before he was Betrayed by his own...it wasn't God Judgment
2007-10-25 08:48:28 · answer #6 · answered by babo1dm 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Interesting conundrum ... but as we all know there is an answer as far as the Christian faith is concerned and quite another for the Buddhist believer.
Islam, that's a whole other story ... blood, murder, mayhem and death is still not enough for them they skip the whole Mercy and forgiveness aspects of religion!!!!
2007-10-25 08:47:35 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 3⤋
God's justice was satisfied for the one who believes in Christ's sacrifice. Jesus is God.
Eternal hell is for the one that doesn't believe it.
2007-10-25 08:45:24 · answer #8 · answered by Chris 4 · 2⤊ 4⤋
Absolutely.....
There is no more sacrifice necessary for the atonement for sin. It was finished at the cross.
But we still need to repent & turn to Christ FOR that salvation. It's not automatic.....we're still sinners in need of the Savior
2007-10-25 08:44:26 · answer #9 · answered by primoa1970 7 · 3⤊ 3⤋
when jesus died on the cross for peoples sins
god in jesus are as one not 2 read you bible alittle bit more each day
2007-10-25 08:45:32 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 2⤋