Mad mad mad,What idiot dream't up this idea,They should put them on trial now for murder,Where the hell do people go when they breakdown,There are to many accident now with vehicles hitting other vehicles on the hard shoulder and they having started using it yet only on a trial basis,Just imagine a car breaks down , and the traffic is doing 70mph,I would hate to think what a pile up there is going to be with the vehicles all trying to do emergency stops and swerving
2007-10-24 19:00:49 · 15 answers · asked by Solo Man 2 in Cars & Transportation ➔ Safety
The idea reeks of desperation. I was stuck on the M25, for 5 hours, sometime ago after a petrol tanker over turned. If the hard shoulder had been full of traffic there would have been no way for the emergency services to get through.
I don't know if anyone was hurt, but certainly it would have caused more chaos if people had resorted to the hard shoulder.
2007-10-24 19:41:26 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 1⤋
You sound like a typical Times / Guardian reader. It makes me mad to read ill informed comments like yours.
After reading the negative comments regarding the use of the hard shoulder, I wonder how many of you actually USE the motorways on a daily basis,- including you, solo man. This is a proposal to be used only when traffic flow allows. Following the successful PEAK usage of the hard shoulder on the M42, there were NO more serious incidents than 'usual', The traffic flow is constantly monitored by cctv - linked to the police motorway unit at Coleshill, and any breakdowns were swiftly dealt with. During peak times, once the traffic is heavy enough, the lanes are either open or closed by indicator signs above each lane, and a max speed limit is enforced. Usually 50mph to start with, NOT 70 as you wrongly assume. (But the overall average speed for 'peak' traffic is about 15 mph) As it works on the M42, the hard shoulder is for traffic turning off at the next junction, and the matrix is set to show that, and the hard shoulder is 'closed' ( RED X matrix) until past the 'on slip'. IF you have ever travelled the stretch of M42 where this system is operating you will have noticed special recovery / breakdown bays set about 800 yards apart and set further off the carriageway than the standard 'hard shoulder'. Regarding a vehicle breaking down, it would have to be a total engine / gear box seizure for a car to stop dead in the middle of any road and cause an accident. Where the hard shoulder should be used is where there is a regular hold up on a slip road - M40 onto the M25, regular queues of more than a mile at peak. for example.
2007-10-25 07:51:08 · answer #2 · answered by george d 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I slowed down to avoid crashing into any debris that might have been left in the road, plus people and the police were all over it, and I was scared of skidding into them in a sort of its so ludicrous, i might just pull it off type way. Some people im sure have that morbid fascination, but im not one of them, so dont paint us all with the same brush. I had to roadkill a squirrel on a busy icy road this morning a little later, I feel awful. I slowed a little, but braking any faster would have caused a collision with those behind or the oncoming traffic im sure of it. RIP squirrel, I'm sorry.
2016-05-25 18:09:50 · answer #3 · answered by ? 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I think you're right - I don't like this idea at all. I was on the M6 near Warrington once, when there was roadworks. Traffic was using the hard shoulder, and a Frenchman in front of me decided to stop. I couldn't go round him so I had to stop - scariest moment of my life.
2007-10-24 23:42:15 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
I couldn't agree more. Not only is it hazardous, but it will be during peak times when all the lanes are busy so it will be more difficult for emergency service to attend the accidents that occur as a result. Madness!
2007-10-24 20:21:34 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
I totally agree and thought that this was another ill thought out exercise, hard shoulder should be used for car breakdowns not another chance for More people to be killed.
2007-10-24 19:45:35 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
Who really cares..!! Whatever the politicians want to do they will do......sod the circumstances of their actions.
I really think it is a mad decision......there's enough idiots using the roads let alone letting them loose 'at certain times of the day' to use the hard shoulder.
Complaining to your MP wont do any good...decision has been made from above....!
2007-10-24 22:32:05 · answer #7 · answered by Mal 2 · 2⤊ 1⤋
too true, plus how are the emergency vehicles supposed to get to accidents as they normally use the hard shoulder and now it will be blocked!!
2007-10-24 19:46:57 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
The trials they carried out on the M42 must have been successful otherwise they would not be extending the scheme further.
2007-10-24 20:56:21 · answer #9 · answered by Prince By Tor 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋
^o) when a car breaks down, its not going to stop instantly, so its not going to make people do emergency stops and cause a pile up.
all that will happen is your engine cuts out, so you slowly roll to a stop, and cause miles of tail backs. fun eh?
2007-10-24 19:35:32 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 1⤋