am i the only one who is pro choice?

Question

so i answered a q earlier tonight about abortion... every response was about how it is murder aside from 1.

just as your god gives you the choice not to support it- do you not belive that god gives liberally the freedom of choice to all of his children?? i am not religious- though i was raised very religious. i know the concepts of the bible.

so say a child is molested? what if someone's life is in danger continuing a pregnancy?

my personal view is- i do not in any means condone abortion as b/c or support late term abortions. but i believe not only is it every woman's right to chose, but also every man's.

personal experience: 19 yrs old, in college, working as an EMT making $6.oo/hr. boyfriend in same boat. we used b/c. because of antibiotics i still got prego. we decided together we wanted to have children but wanted to wait until we were able to give a child everything it needed and deserved.
am i really a "murderer" because of this? if so, why???

btw, if you start referencing me to scriptures, i can give you even more scriptures about how god grants us freedom to chose.. i do know the bible as well even if i'm not religious.

to "A-thiest" can you please tell me why a rape victim shouldn't be allowed the freedom to abort something they had no control over??? just really curious on that one???

Answer 1

I support your choice and am vehemently against political influence on medical decisions. I also think any religiously based argument should be ignored within a secular society (like the US). To the faithful, keep your myths out of government and off of womens bodies.

Answer 2

I believe God does give us choices, but not to go against his own commandment, Thou shall not kill. It's that simple. No where in the bible does it state that you have the choice to KILL a baby, show me. Some people don't believe in God and with me, that is fine, I'm not a bible thumper, but I have my own belief system, I have morals, I cannot kill anybody, and especially not a baby. Fetus is a word they use to disassociate themselves from a fact, the fact is that it is a Baby. At 12 weeks a baby is fully formed, heartbeat, fingernails, hair, at 10 weeks they are almost done forming, but they still have a heartbeat. If it has a heartbeat, it is alive. As another person stated on here, don't have sex if you don't want to be responsible for your own actions. I do believe if a mother has been raped that she should give the child up for adoption, but not murder the child, it's not the child's fault. I also believe if the mother will die giving birth, then she should have the choice, but to kill a child because I wasn't planning it, to me is not an excuse. Abstinence is the best policy if there is a chance of pregnancy. So whatever the persons beliefs are in religion, or not in religion, should not matter, it's still a life. You believe in having a choice, so why can't your child?

Answer 3

Yes, I believe you have the freedom of choice. But that means you are free to choose between evil and good. It does NOT mean that every choice you make is automatically good just because it's your freedom to make that choice.

You say you don't condone abortion as birth control, but that's exactly what you did, isn't it? You used birth control, your birth control failed, so you used abortion as secondary birth control. You weren't in a dangerous health situation. You weren't raped. You weren't molested. You apparently have a reasonable IQ and chose to make love with your boyfriend in the safety and respect of a committed relationship.

And then when you found yourself pregnant, you chose abortion. This was your choice. It's legal. Nobody could tell you it was against the law. But you might as well face the fact that you used abortion as birth control when your regular birth control failed you.

Which, by the way, is why most women get abortions. Planned Parenthood publishes the stats themselves. It's secondary birth control more than half the time. It's primary birth control in only a handful of cases.

What exactly did you think your child needed and deserved that the two of you couldn't give to him/her on $6 an hour each? All a baby needs is life, love, breastmilk, clean diapers and warmth, in the beginning. A little medical care (you guys are EMTs, though -- whatever you couldn't provide, your insurance probably pays for). A car seat. Big deal. None of that is expensive. I spent maybe $100 on my third baby total her first year, and most of that was on the car seat. Lots of hand-me-downs and all of that. What, you couldn't scrape together $100 or $250 or even $500 in 9 months of savings and some help from your parents?

You don't want to be called a murderer, and I don't want to call you one. But you could at least be honest with yourself and with your boyfriend about what the two of you chose to do. You weren't raped. You weren't molested. You weren't high risk. You just got pregnant the normal way, by making love with the man you love.

When you're ready to get real about what happened to the first child that you and your boyfriend conceived in love, call Project Rachel. You'll need their support.

Regarding your other points to justify abortion:

Say a child is molested -- abortion doesn't make the molestation go away. It just adds another bloody and painful and emotionally distressing experience to the mix.

What if somebody's life is in danger continuing a pregnancy? Well, we have this thing called "high risk obstetrics" and this other thing called "high tech care for premature babies." Babies born as early as 18 weeks gestation can be saved, from what I read. My friend had a baby at 24 weeks who is a healthy 8 yr old today.

So you get adequate medical care, carry the baby as long as possible, and then have a c-section and save BOTH the mother and the child. It's possible in every single complication except one, which is a tubal pregnancy, and a baby can't survive that anyway since babies can't live in tubes. They need the womb. So in those circumstances, the baby is usually already dead when the condition is found and surgery is not murdering the child.

Come on -- you're an EMT. You have some medical training. Look it up yourself. Most conditions can be managed if the mother is willing.

Answer 4

I am pro-choice. I fully support your decision to terminate your pregnancy, and I commend you for sharing your story with us. I know some people take abortion pretty hard. In your situation, you would not have been able to have the time or resources to properly raise a child.
Abortion should be an option for the first trimester. Three months is enough time to decide if one can support a child. I value the hens over the eggs in a burning coop.
And, as others have said here already, abortion should not be used as a form of birth control, only as a last resort.

Answer 5

I'm pro choice.

There's two things about the pro life concept that I can't possibly hate any more than I already do.

1. Pro LIFE. Like I hate life? It's one of the stupidest things you could call yourself (the name not the concept).

2. When pro life people always talk about 7 month abortions, and post a nasty picture and the quote "mommy why don't you want me?" THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A 7 MONTH ABORTION. You have to get the abortion in the first trimester.

Answer 6

I've never been put in your position so I can't honestly say what I would have done personally. Now, luckily, my fiance and I are stable and if the old B/C stopped doing its beautiful beautiful job then we'd keep the baby AND get to be excited about it- though ideally we'd prefer to wait a bit longer. That being said, I do not, in any respect, condemn your decision. You have every right, God given and legally so, to that decision. And my "personal view" mirrors your own. So no, you're not the only one who is pro-choice.

Answer 7

Abortion is wrong unless you know the mom is going to die. That is way under 1% of the 4000 or so abortions committed everyday using tax payer's money. If the mom is raped why should the baby have to pay for the sin of the rapist by being killed? If you can't support a baby there are many that are looking to adopt babies. So many in fact some have to adopt from over seas to have any chance of adopting a baby.

I have know several women that use abortion as just another form a birth control and that is sick and cruel but that is how people are now trained to think. To think that it is their body so they can do what they want. The problem is that it is not just their body but another body with his/her own DNA. Also women can't do other things with just their own body such as commit suicide. So that augment fails on 2 accounts. The Bible talks about choice by the way but choices can have severe penalties. God does forgive sins but don't think you can just keep sinning because you'll always be forgiven. That isn't true repentance.

Answer 8

I am pro-choice. A woman should have the right to choose abortion if she wants. The only time I have a problem with it is if a woman uses it as a form of birth control.

Answer 9

Yes God gives you freedom to choose, but that includes you taking the responsibility for the repercussions. Now, no-one here, no matter how smart, knows how God will deal with you on this; no one knows for sure God's feelings about abortion in different circumstances. I can guess, but God only can pay you just recompense, which may be in the end, nothing. I do not know. But please know that God will deal with you fairly and justly in the end, and only He knows how that will play out.

But remember, absent of religion, you are an adult and need to be responsible as an adult. If you are grown enough to have sex, then if the inevitable happens, you are responsible for that life you created, no one else.

Answer 10

I'm pro-choice.
I don't think you are a murderer

Anti-abortionists are more of oppresive force upon women than anything else.

Even if I thought the fetus was a person when it can't survive on its outside the womb I would still be pro-choice because without abortion clinics and doctors who are capable of performing abortions, too many women would be injured or killed seeking illegal and dangerous abortions, or trying to do it themselves.