Whats with Israel isnt their already a jewish homeland?

Question

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast

This place has been established long before Israel ever was and its far away in the middle of no where where no body can mean you people harm.

It comes with a reainbow flag and everying why not go live there inistead of Israel?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast

When i say you people i mean jewish peopel not jews lol

edit when i say you people i mean jews not gays acidentally said jews twice.

Answer 1

Israel is the land of the Jews because God chose it. Simple as that.
For all those that do not believe God has a hand in what goes on regarding Israel and her people.
Explain why a tiny strip of land tucked away within huge Arab lands seems to keep the world on the edge of their seats.

Answer 2

"Long before Israel was"? Try 14 years. A whole 50 years after the start of the Zionist movement. Further, it is not a Jewish autonomous whatever, it is a yiddish heritage preservation whatever. This fails to account for a large percentage of the Jewish population. Lastly, Jews want Israel as their homeland and nowhere else. It is the ancestral home of the Jews, and not one discarded so lightly as that.

Answer 3

The Jewish Autonomous Oblast was a malevolent, cynical scheme to provide Russia's Jewish population with a 'homeland'; in the most desolate location imaginable- with arid heat in the summer, frigid cold in the winter.

Many were sent out to their new 'homeland' packed in cargo carriages with little more than the clothes on their backs- to an empty landscape with hard, infertile soils.

In reality it kept a source of perceived political opposition far away while increasing the population of Siberia (a long-term Soviet strategy). Despite pledging them this region for their own they soon changed their minds and conducted purges of the area involving detention in the Kolyma gulags.

Today only 6-10% of the area's 150,000 population are Jewish- most having emigrated to their real homeland or the US. (where they have always had preferential treatment). Unfortunately due their low economic status many cannot afford to live in Israel proper and instead live in the Occupied Territories.

Answer 4

Israel is the Jewish homeland - there is no other homeland for the Jews.

The Jews have had a presence in Israel from the beginning when they conquered the land of Canaan. Even after the Jews were conquered and went to live in many different lands (the diaspora), there were always some Jews who remained in Israel. In other words, the Jews have had a continuous presence in Israel and Israel has a central place in our religion and in our hearts.

Answer 5

Stalin created it for the Soviet Unions Jewish community to put them all in one place. Jews had no say in its creation. Also most people there are not even Jewish and Jews have no ties to that land.

According to your logic if the British declared Manchester England to be the Irish homeland, the Irish would have no right to Ireland.

Answer 6

That's a great marketing logo: Birobidjan, SIBERIA-- 'Where nobody can mean you people harm' !!!

Sadly, Stalin's mid-1930s purges "took their toll of those who had had the poor judgment to believe their Government's promises. . . http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9901E6DB1E39F93BA35752C1A967948260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=print
(Skip down to: "The Birobidjan Affair".)

"When, at the end of World War II, Moscow again began promoting Birobidzhan as a kind of Jewish homeland, thousands who had managed to survive the war accepted the invitation" (as they had trouble emigrating to anywhere else in the world).
But, in 1948, Jewish activities were declared “nationalistic and counter-revolutionary.”
Israel Emiot, a Yiddish poet and a newspaper correspondent was one of many arrested for “attempting to introduce Yiddish culture artificially” into Birobidzhan.

“As the NKVD man heard me out, his mouth twisted into a sardonic little smile. ‘So you still maintain that what you did was right? Podumayte - think about it. Go back to your cell and think about it some more. In the meantime, just write your autobiography.’”

"THE BIROBIDZHAN AFFAIR A Yiddish Writer in Siberia" By Israel Emiot. 205 pp. tells of 8 years at hard labor in work camps in Siberia. It is ". . . a gripping story of one man’s tortures and hopes and a valuable historical document, both in its own right and for the mass of important data it contains. In this respect, Emiot`s work resembles Solzhenitsyn`s monumental Gulag Archipelago."
http://www.publishersrow.com/ebookshuk/cart/shopproductdetail.asp?id=200&1193288400000#toplist

Delving back further in history, someone here accused the Jews of both: (1) harboring a "grudge" against Pharoah, while simultaneously (2) denying that Jews were historically in ancient Egypt (if I understood correctly).
Yet, on the contrary, there is fascinating archeological evidence on Mount Ebal that the Jews lived in Egypt and came back to Israel (exactly as described in the Bible).

"We discovered this place, all covered with stones, in April 1980.
. . . in the course of nine years of excavation, we discovered a very old structure with no parallels to anything we had seen before."
Among the artifacts found at the altar site was evidence of objects brought by Jews in the exodus from Egypt:
"two scarabs (Egyptian-style signet rings in the shape of a beetle, common in the Ancient Near East throughout the second millenium B.C.E.). . . . One displays a geometric design consisting of a four-petal rosette in the center, with four shoots between the petals and a uraeus (an Egyptian cobra, believed in Egypt to have magical powers of protection and holiness) coming out of each shoot. The other displays a kneeling Egyptian archer and the cartouche of Thutmosis III, the great Egyptian conqueror. On the basis of similar findings in Egypt, Canaan and Cyprus, B. Brandl of the Hebrew University ascribes these scarabs to the second half of the 13th century B.C.E. In other words, they date to the time of the great Egyptian pharaoh, Ramses II, who is considered the pharaoh of the exodus from Egypt . . . ."
http://www.shechem.org/machon/engevala.html
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/7191

Another historic reminder:
"From 70 CE to the 1930s, the descendents of the original priestly families remained in Peki'in . . . .
"The remote location contributed to safety, too. Peki'in is in the far north, some eight kilometers east of Ma'alot. Generation after generation of Jews planted and harvested, lived and died, in Peki'in."
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1191257280551&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Answer 7

I could get seriously seriously offended due to the fact my parents were nearly killed because of Stalin's doctors plot.

That area was created because Stalin had the idea that a you could not really be a nationality without a nation. So he picked the most desolate spot he could find.

It was also planned to be a very large ghetto were all the Jews in the Soviet Union were going to be forcibly deported there by way of cattle cars.

And you want me to call this place my homeland?


A person such as yourself would never understand the importance of the land of Israel to the Jews. You could offer me Paris or London, but I would rather have one rocky dunum in the Judean hills.

This is simply something you will never understand

Answer 8

You are referring to the Jewish National District, which was the result of Joseph Stalin's nationality policy.
It allowed for the Jewish population of Russia to receive a territory in which to pursue Yiddish cultural heritage within a socialist framework.
This is not the same thing as a homeland.
The Jewish homeland is Israel.
The Arabs have 22 countries they call their own, but the Jewish people have only one: Israel.
It is in the Bible:
G-d gave the land of Israel to the Jewish people.

Answer 9

So we Jews are somehow greedy for desiring a tiny homeland that represents less than one per cent of the Middle East - but it's fine for Muslim people to have TWENTY TWO countries.

Yeah, 'cause that sounds fair. NOT.

EDIT SISTERBLU

The pharoah of Egypt? What on earth are you on about? You are displaying a real lack of understanding of the issues.

Answer 10

I think it make so much more sense.I was not aware of this and I really wonder why there is a need for any of the Jewish people to be in the Middle East and Palestine and the land of Israel at all
For most of the refugees were from Poland,Hungary Germany and other Middle European countries.
I will never understand why it was decided to give Europeans a part of the Middle East to begin a new life.
Let us put aside the fact that the Jews lay claim to it being their promised land for that is so open to interpretation by scholars. .
The reality is none of them had ever thought of going to live in that part of the world before the war and the oppression of the Jewish people began.
America was the place that they all wanted to be and were immigrating there in droves before the war began.
.But I have never heard or read of America offering part of their territory of which there is plenty of unused desert that they could have set up their kibbutzes on and irrigate and farmed the land.
Another alternative would have been part of Germany itself. Why didn't that happen,much more logical and less stress about resettlement.
Oh no it had to be Palestine, someone else's land.
Maybe this was a way to fix the old grudge that they had been harbouring ( for no historically proven reason) with the Pharaoh of Egypt.