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I mean the 25 th of dec. If the calendar has changed so much that we could not know what day sabbath falls on how do they know what day Jesus was born on.

2007-10-24 06:52:39 · 12 answers · asked by mairszee 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

I just pray we could stop the madness of chrismas. Also to you Pedestal I know it is a hard time for people and I agree my husband is a fireman and sees all the death at that time of year . I pray you become a christian so will have a family that is close.

2007-10-24 07:34:15 · update #1

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The birth of Jesus was not celebrated as a Christian holiday until the middle of the fourth century AD, under the reign of the Roman emperor Constantine. The date was selected primarily to compete with pagan Winter Solstice festivals, notably Sol Invictus and Saturnalia in Rome and Yule in Germania.

2007-10-24 07:03:48 · answer #1 · answered by marbledog 6 · 2 0

At the time the Bible was written, the birthdates of famous people were considered irrelevant. 2 of the four Gospels don't mention the birth of Christ at all, let alone the day. So, no, enjoy Christmas however you like...there's no biblical reference to Jesus' birthday being on December 25.

2007-10-24 13:59:25 · answer #2 · answered by Tut Uncommon 7 · 3 0

--THE ACTIVITIES OF CHRISTMAS are very much like the Roman Saturnalia:

*** w02 7/15 p. 22 They Keep On Walking in the Truth
*****The Truth and Religious Observances****
--8 Those walking in the truth avoid unscriptural observances because ‘light has no sharing with darkness.’ (2 Corinthians 6:14-18) For instance, they do not celebrate Christmas, held on December 25. “No one knows the EXACT (my caps) date of Christ’s birth,” admits The World Book Encyclopedia. The Encyclopedia Americana (1956 Edition) states: “Saturnalia, a Roman feast celebrated in mid-December, provided the model for many of the merry-making customs of Christmas.” M’Clintock and Strong’s Cyclopædia notes: “The observance of Christmas is not of divine appointment, nor is it of N[ew] T[estament] origin.” And the book Daily Life in the Time of Jesus observes: “The flocks . . . passed the winter under cover; and from this alone it may be seen that the traditional date for Christmas, in the winter, is unlikely to be right, since the Gospel says that the shepherds were in the fields.”—Luke 2:8-11.
--OF INTEREST that the non-Biblical religious presentation of the 3 wisemen who were astrologers never visited Jesus in the manger but at Joseph & Marys home & he was about 2 years old:

(Matthew 2:9-11) . . .When they had heard the king, they went their way; and, look! the star they had seen [when they were] in the east went ahead of them, until it came to a stop above where the young child was. 10 On seeing the star they rejoiced very much indeed. 11 And when THEY WENT INTO THE HOUSE (my caps) they saw the young child with Mary its mother, and, falling down, they did obeisance to it. They also opened their treasures and presented it with gifts, gold and frankincense and myrrh. "

--IT IS INDEED FUN for most of the world yet it is not Christian in any way!
--CHRIST BIRTH can be estimated differently from Dec. 25:

*** it-2 p. 58 Jesus Christ ***
***No basis for winter date of birth***.
--The popular date of December 25 as the day of Jesus’ birth therefore has no basis in Scripture. As many reference works show, it stems from a pagan holiday. Regarding the origin for the celebration of the day December 25, the Jesuit scholar Urbanus Holzmeister wrote:
--“Today it is commonly admitted that the occasion for the celebration of the day December 25 was the festival that the pagans were celebrating on this day. Petavius [French Jesuit scholar, 1583-1652] already has rightly observed that on December 25 was celebrated ‘the birthday of the unconquered sun.’
--“Witnesses for this festival are: (a) The Calendar of Furius Dionysius Filocalus, composed in the year 354 [C.E.], in which it is noted: ‘December 25, the B(irthday) of the unconquered (Sun).’ (b) The calendar of astrologer Antiochus (composed about 200 [C.E.]): ‘Month of December . . . 25 . . . The birthday of the Sun; daylight increases.’ (c) Caesar Julian [Julian the Apostate, emperor 361-363 C.E.] recommended the games that were celebrated at the end of the year in honor of the sun, which was called ‘the unconquered sun.’”—Chronologia vitae Christi (Chronology of the Life of Christ), Pontificium Institutum Biblicum, Rome, 1933, p. 46.
--Perhaps the most obvious evidence of the incorrectness of the December 25 date is the Scriptural fact that shepherds were in the fields tending their flocks on the night of Jesus’ birth. (Lu 2:8, 12) Already by the autumn month of Bul (October-November) the rainy season was starting (De 11:14), and flocks were brought into protected shelters at night. The next month, Chislev (the ninth month of the Jewish calendar, November-December), was a month of cold and rain (Jer 36:22; Ezr 10:9, 13), and Tebeth (December-January) saw the lowest temperatures of the year, with occasional snows in the highlands area. The presence of shepherds in the fields at night therefore harmonizes with the evidence pointing to the early autumn month of Ethanim as the time of Jesus’ birth.—See BUL; CHISLEV.
--Also weighing against a December date is that it would be most unlikely for the Roman emperor to choose such a wintry, rainy month as the time for his Jewish subjects (often rebellious) to travel “each one to his own city” to be registered.—Lu 2:1-3; compare Mt 24:20; see TEBETH.

2007-10-24 14:17:16 · answer #3 · answered by THA 5 · 0 0

1. God nor Messiah told us to celebrate his birthday. They gave us their own holidays which were still being observed in the New Testament, contrary to popular belief.
2. Messiah was born during Feast of Tabernacles, which is somewhere in September or October, depending on the Hebrew months.
3. The Hebrew calendar has not changed, our calendar has changed.
4. Christmas is a pagan holiday created to bring in the heathens to believing in Messiah.

2007-10-24 14:01:05 · answer #4 · answered by dreamgyrl360 4 · 2 0

It's not even for fun, for many people.

High rates of suicide and family violence coincide with the period, as people fail to match the expectations of the "perfect" Christmasses offered and apparently demanded. (by advertisers mainly, but also families, communities and church organisations)

For me Christmas is largely somethng to opt out of, in so far as it's possible without upsetting anyone.
I'm not Christian or Pagan (neo or otherwise) and I don't have a close family.

2007-10-24 14:06:24 · answer #5 · answered by Pedestal 42 7 · 1 0

No one knows which day Jesus Christ was born, but the catholic Church set December 25 as the day that the birth of Jesus is celebrated.

If the angels in Heaven sang out for joy at the birth of Jesus, so should we.

2007-10-24 13:56:43 · answer #6 · answered by Sldgman 7 · 1 2

The real meaning of Christmas.
We read in God Holy Law-Book the Bible in Isaiah 42:5-9

Thus saith God JAHWEH, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein: I JAHWEH have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles; To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house. I am JAHWEH: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images. Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you of them.

2007-10-24 14:07:42 · answer #7 · answered by JESUS means: JAHWEH is Salvation 2 · 0 0

If many people know how x-mas is a pagan holiday then why is it that you still celebrate it...especially if you are said to be true christians...???? Just a question to think about...

2007-10-24 14:41:19 · answer #8 · answered by just a girl 4 · 0 0

jesus was born in september (due to weather conditions and the shepherds wouldn't be keeping their flocks in the dead of winter.), they took dec. 25 from pagan beliefs in the hopes that more pagans would convert.

2007-10-24 13:55:12 · answer #9 · answered by Lorreign v.2 5 · 5 0

there is nothing listed in the Bible as to Christmas it was a Pagan holiday Known as Yule & the Church added Christmas to over shadow it to what it is now?

as well as to "help the Pagans convert"

2007-10-24 13:58:34 · answer #10 · answered by villhelm 3 · 3 0

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