Is it wrong of me to ask God /Jesus to let my friend into heaven that commited suicide ?

Question

I have very strong Christian faith ..but recently a long time family friend / also family to my cousins had commited suicide ..I am deeply saden to think God would turn this person away from Heaven ..This person had SUCH a hard life but he lived it anyway's , he was seriously abused as a child , don't God take those things into consideration , or is each count of suicide all treated the same , in the Christain laws ..Im am devasted to think this unique person would be turned away ..please someone help enlighten me on this issue..

Answer 1

Why didn't your 'god' help this person when he was alive?

Answer 2

I don't think anyone deserves eternal torture for any act, suicide or not. This is in part why I do not think of Christianity as a compassionate religion: It implies that anyone holding a different philosophical position on gods (probably 80% of the world's population) will be harmed with violence. And even more unforgivable is the idea that non-Christians deserve it, because they dared not to believe in a deity without evidence, or to act in a way that may have been a product of mental disease or physical abuse (such as suicide). I am sorry that your friend is gone, but there is no more pain or suffering.

Answer 3

Well, I would say that it is, but only because I don't happen to believe in that particular mythology.

I've also lost somebody who I really loved to suicide. I think the "religious" idea that such people, who obviously suffered and struggled with so much in life, are barred from heaven, and therefore damned to hell by default, is about as heartless and cruel as anything in religion. That's just one of the ideas I find despicable about traditional Christianity.

It's tragic any way you look at it; but you can at least rest assured that the pain is over for this person, even though it's a small consolation. And if there is an afterlife of some sort, I can't believe that he would be punished further for simply not being able to withstand the pressure of his environment.

Answer 4

Prayer for the dead is an age-old Christian tradition and is done every mass in Catholicism, Episcopalianism, and Methodism.

Regarding the suicide, try not to think of God like a cosmic accountant or judge in the human sense. That is a metaphor by which we understand some things about God, but what matters about suicide is that a soul tangled up in despair does not respond readily to love or grace. Extending love to that person is as important as it has ever been, and in large part your grief is never a getting over but only learning to love in absence.

God is not cruel, there is no mercy to be given. Your friend is a child of God and always welcome in his house. The journey will be longer for this friend, but in the immortal words of Led Zeppelin, though the course may change sometimes rivers always reach the sea.

Answer 5

Just so you know I studied religion for 7 years before walking away from it and god entirely. But I do remember the lessons on prayer because prayer has been so misused. Here is some advice:

Traditional prayer has nothing to do with asking anything from God. It follows this formula:

1. Declare god's greatness and wisdom in all things.
2. Let god know what is weighing upon your heart, but do not ask, request, insist, demand or command anything. This is not your place and neither does it have a place in prayer.
3. Acknowledge god as the one who will carry what you have said in the real world. Your god will do with what you have prayed as him/her/it sees fit. Many times the answer you will receive is already there. Be prepared for the unlikely or silence all together. Even silence is an answer. Take care.

Answer 6

- Honestly? I'd want to go into Heaven because there is no pain nor sorrow and there is no grief. But I don't think I'd deserve to go to such a place. But God knows where I will end up, so all I can do right now Is pray everyday to get closer with him, so on Judgement Day I will be saved. - Aoi, I understand where you're coming from. But honestly? World problems does not provide a single trace of evidence to question God's existence. God doesn't like seeing people in trouble, so just because we live in a world full of issues such as; Murder, Rape, Violence/Cruelty, Criminality, World Hunger, Racism & Discrimination, Sickness and Stubborn politicians doesn't mean that God doesn't exist. What sort of proof are you asking for? Physcial Proof? Also, what sort of christian were you? Anglican, Catholic or Pentecostal? Catholicism portrays Christians in a wrongful manner because catholic churches are just boring, plain and straight foward. Standard. Also, from what I've heard some of the Pope's in catholic churches are messed up, mentally and I have evidence to back this up because I heard that most Pope's are interested in relationships with younger boys. Best advice for proof? Visit a pentecostal church & Try to connect with God as much as you can! Trust me, God won't touch you physically but he will touch your spirit and you will know thats him! Also Chop Chops, just shut up LOL. Nobody's perfect, not even you so dont flatter yourself. Hope I answered your question :)

Answer 7

God loves him, stop doubting the greatness of God.

Your friend may have turned from God, but God didn't turn from your friend.

Your friend was suffering from depression, that existed only because of the sins committed against him. He couldn't feel the love of God, he couldn't know the love of God while living.

Had Jesus committed the eternal sin by sacrificing Himself?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_sin

If you can doubt the Father and the Son, why must you never doubt the Holy spirit?
What exactly is the Holy Spirit?
Where is it?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Spirit

Once you trust the Holy Spirit properly, you will understand that there is no such thing as life without spirit.

You will also understand how the eternal sin is committed, and who commits it. It's the difference between who makes people doubt God, and the One that makes people never doubt God.

Answer 8

Whom the question is. Why do you care so much about the person now?
As a Christan . are you feeling a little guilty, because, you may have been able to prevent it.?
I mean if you knew the person was troubled. Did you go out of your way, to help this person, or not?
To ask God or Jesus to forgive. there is nuthin wrong with that. But its not ok to take ones own life.
Everyone has a troubled life ,at some point. As a Christan. You should know,
Gods does not turn you away. You turn away from God. Your friend, gave up on God. God did not give up on him.
All he need to do was ask God to help him.
And i'm sure God would of.
But since he refused to seek Gods help, Or Jesus. He chose to end his own life.
Because he gave up on life. Instead of facing it for what it was. But maybe just maybe, if one prays for another. Sometimes it helps.

Answer 9

You get to CHOOSE what you believe.

It seems this incident has made you THINK about the Christian Laws - and how they don't really sync up with a loving God.

I believe that God is LOVE. There is no judgment or punishment from God. It's LOVE. It just makes more sense for me than other religions.

Our religion should be something that works for us. A tool. Something that helps us to be a better person. Find what works for you. Maybe it is not Christianity.

I don't know if I believe in immortality or not. But YOU get to CHOOSE what you believe in. If you want to KNOW in your heart that your friend is in a good place - a loving place - then so be it.

Many of the Christians on here will tell you that only God can be the judge. Others will tell you that your friend is burning in hell. None of that matters. Your heart knows - because God is in your heart.

Namaste!!

Answer 10

Let me start by saying that Hell (where one goes if they don't go to heaven) was never meant for humans. It was only meant for Lucifer and the fallen angels that followed him.

John 14:6 says "Jesus answered, 'I am the way the truth and the life. No man comes to the father [i.e. enters heaven] except through me."

The amplified shows in Romans 2:11 "For God shows no partiality [[a]undue favor or unfairness; with Him one man is not different from another]"

The sad fact is... that many will turn away and not choose Christ. I can guarantee you that this individual had many opportunities to turn to Christ, especially living such a hard life.

I honestly think if a person commits suicide, when they're not in their normal mental and correct state that that can be forgiven; however, if someone dies without receiving salvation, that cannot be forgiven.

The hard truth is, Jesus himself received abuse. While he didn't commit suicide, he allowed himself to be taken, when he could had stepped forward and put a stop to it.

Romans 9:15 says "for he says to Moses,
"I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,
and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.""

So look at it this way: It's not my say or your say whether your friend gets into heaven.

If he truly never had a chance to accept Christ, then God could have mercy on him. God could have mercy on him anyway. But, if God did extend him opportunities to accept Christ as savior, and your friend turned away, then he made his choice, regardless of the circumstances.

It is possible that he never had the opportunity, but I suspect that he had numerous opportunities in his life, and never accepted them. Jesus said "I will draw all men unto myself". He loves us, and seeks us out when we're sinners.

In either case, again, it's not up to us to decide, nor can we know until we reach heaven. But if your friend didn't make it to heaven, it's not because he committed suicide. It will be because he chose not to accept Jesus.

Answer 11

Was your friend a believer? If so, he is in heaven.

I had a friend who committed suicide, and many were convinced she had gone to hell because of the way she died. I don't think so. If we are breathing, we are sinners. If we are sinners, then it makes sense that we will die with sins on our consciences. Suicide is not the unforgiveable sin.

When people have been in comas or brain dead, how can they repent of sins before they die? They can't. So why is suicide any different?

God is merciful. He doesn't follow laws or doctrines of man. He is loving and forgiving.