Catholics: At what point does the bread and wine become flesh and blood?

Question

Is it when it is going down the throat or in the stomach? Or even sooner like when it touches my tongue?

What's concecration?

What does "Hoc est enim corpus meum" mean?

Answer 1

The bread and wine become Christ's body and blood at the Words of Institution (Verbum Domini, words of our Lord). This is Consecration. To consecrate means to make Holy. The words of our Lord do it, it's got nothing to do with what we do.

Our Lord Jesus Christ, on the night when He was betrayed, took bread, and when He had given thanks, He broke it and gave it to his disciples and said: "Take, eat; this is My + body, which is given for you. This do in remembrance of Me."

In the same way also He took the cup after supper, and when He had given thanks, He gave it to them, saying: "Drink of it, all of you; this cup is the new testament in My + blood, which is shed for you for the forgiveness of sins. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me." Matthew 26:26-28; Mark 14:22-24 Luke 22:19-20; 1 Corinthians 11:23-25.

Hoc est corpus meum is Latin, it translates "this is My body".

Non Lutheran protestants coined the phrase "hocus pocus" to mock and ridicule the Orthodox, Lutheran , Roman Catholic, and Anglican belief in what Scripture teaches. Read also John Chapter 6.

This also mocks and ridicules the very sacred words of our Lord.

Your friend in Christ.

Mark

Answer 2

While the priest says the Eucharistic prayer over the bread and wine on the altar. This is called the consecration.

At the Last Supper, Jesus said, “Take this bread. It is my body.” Then he said, “Take this and drink. This is my blood. Do this in memory of me.”

Catholics believe this was the First Eucharist, that through a miracle the bread and wine actually became the body and blood of Jesus Christ.

Catholics reenact the Last Supper during every Mass, where God, acting through the priest, changes the bread and wine into the body and blood of Jesus Christ.

This is a great sacrament of thanksgiving and unity of Catholics.

By the way, the Orthodox, Lutheran and many Anglican Churches also believe in the Real Presence of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist.

For more information, see the Catechism of the Catholic Church, sections 1322 and following: http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt2sect2chpt1art3.htm

With love in Christ.

Answer 3

Do you mean "Roman" catholic?

There is no "point" - it is the complete act of the Holy Eucharist that causes the mystery of the Real Presence.

Eastern Orthodox believe it "happens" at the epiklesis...the calling upon the Holy Ghost. The Roman theology is that it happens at the words of institution, "Hoc est enim corpus meum"

Answer 4

Funny how the non-Catholic Christians keep saying that transubstantiation is un-biblical, but forget that the New Testament they seem to worship was put together by Catholics three hundred years after their savior died. Do they think that their bible assembled itself from nothing? Just what do they think Christians were doing all that time before the bible was put together, telling the gospel by word of mouth? The bible says no such thing, so by their reasoning not a single one of them should be saying that Jesus is a part of god. There is no trinity in the bible either, you non-catholic christians. Are you saying that THAT idea is also "another erroneous - and unbiblical - Catholic belief"?

Edit: to answer the question, I'd say it happens the moment the bread leaves the oven and the wine leaves the liquor store. If God knows what it's going to be used for, then I guess you can already consider it done.

Answer 5

particular, in actuality it does. we've that on the authority of Jesus himself. John 6:fifty 3-fifty six: Jesus mentioned to them, "I permit you be attentive to the actuality, till you consume the flesh of the Son of guy and drink his blood, you have no longer have been given any existence in you. Whoever eats my flesh and beverages my blood has eternal existence, and that i'll strengthen him up on the final day. For my flesh is genuine nutrition and my blood is genuine drink. Whoever eats my flesh and beverages my blood maintains to be in me, and that i in him." the priority with the Protestants is they take the figurative actually and the literal figuratively. Jesus taught an unmistakable literal message with reference to the Eucharist in John 6. in spite of if, you will possibly be guaranteed that Christ isn't harmed whilst we obey his commandment to consume his physique and drink his blood. John 6:51: "i'm the dwelling bread that got here down from heaven. If all of us eats of this bread, he will stay consistently. This bread is my flesh, which i'll grant for the existence of the worldwide." Cheers, Bruce

Answer 6

Jesus makes it happen during the Consecration (at least, that's our best guess -- it's up to Him to do it, of course, and He can make the change whenever He wants to).

When one consumes the Blessed Sacrament, *everything* in there that is Jesus becomes part of us. We do not eject any of Him through any form of bodily emission.

Those who say it is "cannibalistic" sound like the weak disciples in John 6 who left Jesus because they didn't "get it" either.

Answer 7

It has nothing at all to do with you.

It has everything to do with the church, the Mass, the priest, the Holy Spirit, Jesus Christ, and the purpose of our salvation.

Answer 8

Even though this is nothing but sarcasm, and a continuing attack on us, I'll tell you.

At the moment of concecration.

Answer 9

Obviously this is another erroneous - and unbiblical - Catholic belief.

Edit: In response to another answer - The Catholics did NOT put the Bible together as popularly believed. In fact they used to kill people for owning Bibles, and even today they try to add new books and call them "holy".

Answer 10

At the moment of consecration -- which is before we receive it.

Everyone can now resume their Catholic-bashing. Enjoy yourselves.