The term fundamentalist is used for some people of a religion who've had experience with secularism but would like to impose their personal religious dogmas on everyone as a political tool!
When you go around the world and see muslim nations they have an Islamic state with minorities given a Dhimmi status reather than equal rights and are brutalised regularly. There is no experience with secularism.
Is there really a moderate islam or a moderate muslim? Is there only one islam ie fundamentalist and the so called moderates are deluding themselves holding on to "Allah" and hoping for some utopian peaceful Islam which doesn't really exist!
Have they read their Quran? If they have and still say there can be a peaceful Islam are they just playing people with "Takiyah"!
2007-10-23 20:26:19 · 15 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Zenbull, you need to understand secularism first! Secularism is not giving people dhimmi status, it means equal status for all citizens and religion and state are seperate. As for your democracy Mayasia. It has constantly refused people the right to convert out of Islam however conversion into islam is not stopped. You might wanna rethink your idea of democracy! The state should not interfere with people's idea of religion or lack of it!
2007-10-23 20:40:04 · update #1
Shraz there is a difference with different ideologies. Secularism being a modern concept is designed against prselytising religions. Hinduism in the religious ideology itself says all paths are valid to the one god and it does not say people would go to hell if they donot follow hinduism! Indian culture has always had pluralism rather than secularism which is needed in a country with agressive majority religions! That is why uniquely to India, those that claim to be secularists are actually more bigotted than those that claim to be hindus!
2007-10-23 20:45:44 · update #2
I've always said that there is only a one or two degree difference between "moderate" Muslims and "fundamentalists" and terrorists.
I recently visited Egypt and had to get several government/legal documents authorized. There was indeed a distinct feeling of Muslims being given preferential treatment compared to other people.
One of the things that freaked me out most was that we had to go to a mosque and get the imam's permission to sign a document, and the clincher was that if he didn't agree to let us sign the paper, the government would side with him and deny our petition.
It struck me that if we did this in the USA, it would be like going to any church and begging the minister or priest to let us have a passport or voting card.
2007-10-23 20:45:42 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 2⤋
Of course theres a moderate Islam, practiced by Muslims all over the Western word. Pick up a Bible sometime, and you'll read the same types of horrible passages about spreading religion by the sword, killing 'sun-worshipers' and 'non-believers', etc. But do everyday Christians stone non-believerst to death (even though the Bible, like the Qu'arn, tells them too)? No, ofcourse not, just like everyday moderate Muslims in the west just want peace and happyness, the same crap preached by from all religions...
2007-10-23 20:31:35 · answer #2 · answered by Go Leafs Go 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Islam makes a great distinction between Muslims and Mohmins: A Muslim is guy or woman who says Shahada (A announcement of religion). this is to state that there is no God yet Allah and Muhammad is the final messenger (Shia Muslims additionally say that Ali is the father or mom). A Mohmin is somebody who's a Muslim yet is likewise a guy or woman who is familiar with the announcement of religion unquestionably and follows the reward and virtues of the announcement subsequently. I evaluate anybody who says the Shahda as Muslim, yet I basically evaluate merely and good Muslims as Mohmins.
2016-10-04 11:38:14 · answer #3 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Ther words fundamentalists, moderates,terrorists,extremists have been closely associated with the Muslims after 9/11.
From your name, i assume that you are a hindu.
If you are priest in a temple, can i call you an fundamentalist?
If you are a hindu, but dont follow much of its fundamentals, can i call you a modern liberal hindu?
If you are a hindu, follow most of the things, can i call you moderate hindu?
If you are a hindu, your fundamentals are very strong, & dont budge from your beliefs, can i call you extremist?
Bottom line, theres nothing like moderate, extremists, fundamentalists etc etc in any religion. Its either you firmly follow it or you dont. its a personal matter between God & the believer. Its not for the fellow human beings to judge.
I am a Muslim.
EDIT1: Shakti,
You missed my point. I answered for " Why is the term fundamentalist and moderates used for muslims? ".
I didnt attack any country, or any religion for answering.
I have no issues with any religion, region or race.
You follow yours, I follow mine.
peace :)
2007-10-23 20:38:43 · answer #4 · answered by shiraz a 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Fundamentalism is defined as “the practice of asserting the absolute truth of your own beliefs and practices to the deliberate exclusion of the possibility of truth in the beliefs and practices of others.” It is nothing but bigotry.
Based on this definition any religion or ideology can be called fundamentalist.
In fairness to them I have Muslim friends who are moderates who detest Islamic extremists and fundamentalists.
2007-10-23 20:38:38 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Well, there's Turkey which probably is going to go from secularism to Muslim fanaticism since they just elected a fanatic for President.
That, or we just alienated them. And now the Iraq Kurd thingy. It's just like watching a fuse going to a powder keg.
2007-10-23 20:31:14 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
You're full of ****. There are plenty of secular Muslim countries, such as Turkey, Malaysia or Syria. And even Iraq was secular, before your country decided to brutally rape it.
2007-10-23 20:36:36 · answer #7 · answered by Belzetot 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋
No, I've known "mainstream" Muslims who didn't treat me as some kind of inferior infidel for being a non-Muslim. As for how they justify some of the more brutally "colorful" passages in the Koran, I don't know. I'll leave that up to them to answer.
2007-10-23 20:31:03 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
The word "fundamental" is related to the word "foundation", and refers to believers who adhere to the core elements of their religion.
2007-10-23 20:30:43 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
moderates are deluding themselves holding on to "Allah" and hoping for some utopian peaceful Islam which doesn't really exist!.....
How is this so different from moderate Chrisitans and their ideal of Heaven??
2007-10-23 20:34:23 · answer #10 · answered by froggy_logic 6 · 0⤊ 2⤋