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Here's the first clause of the first amendment:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"

Since not all citizens follow religions that believe in an interactive God, how is the obligatory recital of the pledge not a "law respecting an establishment of religion"?

Look into the origin of the phrase. It wasn't always in the pledge, and it has decidedly Christian origins, not some loose deistic meaning of "God".

If I'm way off base, please tell me why.

2007-10-23 15:23:07 · 11 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

It seems dishonest to me to claim that no specific religion is implied when the history of the phrase clearly says otherwise. I understand that no one has to say the pedge every day, but why was it recited over the intercom every single day I was in school, for 12 years? Surely there is some legislation dictating this practice.

2007-10-23 16:12:13 · update #1

This smacks of the same doublespeak used by creationists to shoehorn their dogma into science classrooms under the guise of "intelligent design".

2007-10-23 16:13:04 · update #2

11 answers

You're not off base, but that particular violation is a mere peccadillo compared to the blatant violations of the Constitution displayed by the current administration, e.g., wiretapping, rendering people for outsourced torture to Egypt and Syria, breaching national security by outing a federal agent for political reasons, and declaring war on a country that was not attacking us.

2007-10-23 15:29:06 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 2

Yes, you are off base, for as you even cited from the First Amendment: "Congress shall make NO LAW... PROHIBITING the FREE EXERCISE THEREOF (RELIGION)".

The phrase: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..." is in reference to "A" specific religion (Christian denomination), NOT to "religion" in generality, or its broad sense, because the Founding Fathers were exclusively “Christocentric” and honored the Judeo-Christian Principles, being the backbone of civility (The Ten Commandments); and had no intent for the clause to be applied to the removed spiritual concepts of Eastern Religions, mysticism or paganism, i.e. Hinduism, Buddhism, Wicca, Satanism, etc., for the Colonial Mind understood these belief systems and the occult to be “antithetical idolatry” to the Triune Godhead of the “Great Book” (Holy Scriptures).

Modern Liberal Constitutional Revisionists are entirely responsible for having "contorted" the phraseology, solely for their own atheistic assault and anti-Christian/anti-Biblical agenda, which the Founding Fathers had never intended, and would have NEVER approved.

2007-10-23 15:52:16 · answer #2 · answered by . 5 · 1 1

Additionally, how many right-wing Christian Americans are aware that "the Pledge" was composed by a National Socialist (or, if you prefer, a Nazi) as a means of encouraging children and other citizens to feel a debt of loyalty to The State?

2016-05-25 08:12:05 · answer #3 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

It is not a violation. The pledge of allegiance does not promote one religion over another. The pledge is not establishing religion nor prohibiting free exercise thereof. To say "One nation under God" is not establishing any religion nor promoting one.

2007-10-23 15:36:13 · answer #4 · answered by mesquiteskeetr 6 · 1 1

Which religion does "under God" establish?
See, here is the problem. In order to establish a religion, you have to actually establish a religion. Using a phrase that some people don't specifically advocate as religious dogma is not the establishment of a specific religion, and it is not the prohibition of religion.

2007-10-23 15:27:01 · answer #5 · answered by NONAME 7 · 3 2

Just saying "Under God" does not promote a religion. Saying the Pledge is not mandatory or a law

2007-10-23 15:27:52 · answer #6 · answered by tebone0315 7 · 2 1

the phrase was introduced during the cold war to create the illusion that Americans were god fearing people, while at that time Russian were mostly atheist.

FYI ----> the pledge in voluntary not an obligation...you can choose not to say it if you don't want to.

2007-10-23 15:30:55 · answer #7 · answered by LeoPham 2 · 0 1

you are off base. you dont have to say the pledge of allegiance or you can leave the under god part out. it was added by lincoln I believe to point out that this nation was founded by people who believed they were christians and that they were a christian nation who believed in christian principles.

2007-10-23 15:29:00 · answer #8 · answered by thedtbmister 3 · 3 2

It was added in the 50's by a guy who was obsessed with Communists. It wasn't original to the pledge no matter how badly fundamentalist want it to be. I think it should be taken out because it's NOT ORIGINAL to the damn pledge to begin with.

LOL It wasn't added by Lincoln. It was added by McCarthy.

2007-10-23 15:26:50 · answer #9 · answered by ~Heathen Princess~ 7 · 1 4

you can say what ever you want.. but its diff. because you dont have to say the pledge... and most people do but some dont and some do but dont say the under God part... i dont kno i dont think its wrong... but...

2007-10-23 15:28:34 · answer #10 · answered by [[ Stanley Jean<33 ]] 4 · 1 2

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