If there is no Purgatory?

Question

than where do these visions of ghosts and spirits derive from? Why are they roaming? There are so many historical and modern accounts of these instances where phenomena has occured and I personally don't buy the "oh there just crazy" theory. There are spirits out and about.........your thoughts.

Ofcourse this question is only for believers in God and spirits so if you can help it and restrain yourself, please no silly retorts.

Squirt - I believe in that as well as the possibility these are apparitions. Do you have any sources/ stories I could read on these other dimension

Answer 1

The purification is necessary because, as Scripture teaches, nothing unclean will enter the presence of God in heaven (Rev. 21:27) and, while we may die with our mortal sins forgiven, there can still be many impurities in us, specifically venial sins and the temporal punishment due to sins already forgiven.


When we die, we undergo what is called the particular, or individual, judgment. Scripture says that "it is appointed for men to die once, and after that comes judgment" (Heb. 9:27). We are judged instantly and receive our reward, for good or ill. We know at once what our final destiny will be.

Augustine said, in The City of God, that "temporary punishments are suffered by some in this life only, by others after death, by others both now and then; but all of them before that last and strictest judgment" (21:13). It is between the particular and general judgments, then, that the soul is purified of the remaining consequences of sin: "I tell you, you will never get out till you have paid the very last copper" (Luke 12:59).

Why would anyone go to purgatory? To be cleansed, for "nothing unclean shall enter [heaven]" (Rev. 21:27). Anyone who has not been completely freed of sin and its effects is, to some extent, "unclean." Through repentance he may have gained the grace needed to be worthy of heaven, which is to say, he has been forgiven and his soul is spiritually alive. But that’s not sufficient for gaining entrance into heaven. He needs to be cleansed completely.

The Catholic Church defines purgatory as a "purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven," which is experienced by those "who die in God’s grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified" (CCC 1030). It notes that "this final purification of the elect . . . is entirely different from the punishment of the damned" (CCC 1031).

(Source)
http://www.catholic.com/library/Purgatory.asp

Answer 2

Those spirits and ghosts that are out and about are not proof of the existence of purgatory. That is a term made by the Catholic Church for the requirement of purification so that we can enter heaven. They negate the work of Jesus Christ, who sanctified us by His death, once and for all. It is finished.

Does that mean we can sin, that it does not matter what we do or how we live? Of course not. Our love of God and the price that was paid for our redemption would prevent us doing this. He has provided us a helper, His Holy Spirit that dwells within us, to teach and show each of us how to live a holy and devoted life.

Read Hebrews 10 for more understanding about this subject.

Answer 3

HADES In Greek religion the god of the underworld; consequently the kingdom ruled over by Hades, or the abode of the dead. In the Bible the Greek translation of the Hebrew sheol, also meaning the abode of the dead, or death, or the power of destruction, or the place of the wicked after death. (Etym. Greek Haid_s, the nether world.) PURGATORY The place or condition in which the souls of the just are purified after death and before they can enter heaven. They may be purified of the guilt of their venial sins, as in this life, by an act of contrition deriving from charity and performed with the help of grace. This sorrow does not, however, affect the punishment for sins, because in the next world there is no longer any possibility of merit. The souls are certainly purified by atoning for the temporal punishments due to sin by their willing acceptance of suffering imposed by God. The sufferings in purgatory are not the same for all, but proportioned to each person's degree of sinfulness. Moreover, these sufferings can be lessened in duration and intensity through the prayers and good works of the faithful on earth. Nor are the pains incompatible with great peace and joy, since the poor souls deeply love God and are sure they will reach heaven. As members of the Church Suffering, the souls in purgatory can intercede for the persons on earth, who are therefore encouraged to invoke their aid. Purgatory will not continue after the general judgment, but its duration for any particular souls continues until it is free from all guilt and punishment. Immediately on purification the soul is assumed into heaven. (Etym. Latin purgatio, cleansing, purifying.)

Answer 4

I have never made up my mind about ghosts, etc....but I'll tell you one thing....if there is no such condition as Purgatory, there will an awful lot of surprised fundamentalists NOT getting into Heaven!

At least Catholics understand that nearly no one dies in a state worthy of entering Heaven. We understand there MUST be some process of perfecting our souls from the condition they are in at the time of our death so that we are pure, clean and holy to enter the gates of Paradise.

I can't imaing walking around like the protestants do, thinking it doesn't matter what they do or how they live their lives, because Jesus already paid for it.

What kind of reasoning is THAT??

Answer 5

Personally, I believe that you make the choice while you're alive whether you will accept Christ as Savior, and that determines where you end up at the end of your life, no in betweens. The way I see it, Satan will do anything he can to distract us from focusing on God. If making us think we see, feel, or hear the spirits of dead people can take our focus off of Him, then that is a tool Satan will use to his advantage.

Answer 6

There are no "ghosts". You're seeing demons. Demons will pretend to be anything you want, so long as you reject the truth of the Bible.

And "purgatory" doesn't exist, and isn't in the Bible.

Catholics are not saved and are not Christians. Catholics believe a false gospel of works that leads to eternal hell (Galatians 1).

Answer 7

Sometimes dimensions kind of overlap and we see into them. Our 3d reality is very limited. We are moving into a less dense reality, 4d and 5d and these things are being seen more every day. Get used to it. This is how the bloodline "sees".

Answer 8

The Pope is the one who decided that there is no Purgatory.

William M. Butler, a servant of the Lord Jesus Christ

Answer 9

They can be anything.
I had a thought that they are acutally people who are alive and dreaming, some how projecting themselves and not even knowing it.