Sadly the Bible is now corrupt, there is only ONE GOD.
"And when God said, 'O Jesus, son of Mary, did you say unto men, "Take me and my mother as gods, apart from God"? He said, 'To you be glory! It is not mine to say what I have no right to. If I indeed said it, you would have known it, knowing what is within my heart, though I do not know your knowledge; you know the things unseen. I only said to them what you did commands me: "Serve God, my God and your God." (Al-Maida 5-116)
People of the Book, do not go beyond the bounds in your religion, and say nought as to God but the Truth. The messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was only the messenger of God, and his word (Fulfilment of his word (Fulfilment of His command, through the word "Be", for the creation of Jesus) that he committed to Mary, and a spirit originating from Him (was given life by God). So believe in God and His Messengers, and say not 'Three'. Refrain, better is for you. God is only one God. Glory be to him-that He should have a son! To Him belongs all that is in the Heavens and in the Earth; God suffices for a guardian.
The Messiah will not disdain to be a servant of God, neither the Angels who are close to Him. Whosoever disdains to serve Him and walks proud, He will assuredly muster them to Him, all of them.
As for the believers, who do deeds of righteousness, we will pay them their rewards in full, and He will give them more, of His bounty; as for them who disdain and walks proud, then He will punish with a severe punishment, and they shall not find for them, apart from God, a friend or helper." (An-Nissa 4:171-173)
2007-10-23 04:05:45
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answer #1
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answered by B 3
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They are 3 different guys. God started with a body from when he lived on his own world. Jesus got a body by coming to Earth. The Holy Ghost (Spirit) does not have a body. That is how he is able to enter people's bodies and influence them. He will get a body eventually. I don't know what the trinity is about.
Read King James version. It's the most correct, but some of the stuff in it will probably still be confusing. Try to find one with foot notes. It'll help explain everything that might not have been perfectly translated.
You can find one at a Deseret Book for sure. :)
2007-10-23 02:27:05
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answer #2
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answered by Anonymous
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I call this the "Egg Theory" because it is the best way I can "show" how three things can be one thing.
I look at them like an egg. Is the egg white still an egg if it is only an egg white? Is the yolk still an egg? Is the shell still an egg? They are all part of an egg but it takes all three of them to actually BE an egg. And, each one has it's own function.
Jesus, the Holy Spirit, and the Father are all one God, just as the components of an egg, make up an egg.... the components of God make up God.
Jesus is the yolk, the part that has become a life form on this earth. (Just like a chicken would develop from the yolk- Christ became a man)The Holy Spirits job is to feed humans, even Jesus when he was on this earth(Just like the white part of an egg does). The Father is like the shell, He holds it all together.
All three of them are one God. They all work in unison for one purpose and one goal.
As for Bibles, KJV is the most widely accepted but the best way to make sure you get the best out of your translation I suggest getting a "Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible" If you look up a word from Scripture it will give you a number so you can go to the back and look up the original word used in that scripture and all the possible translations of the word. It is VERY helpful! It contains both the Hebrew and Greek translations of words.
2007-10-23 02:31:23
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answered by Anonymous
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The good news bible.... is NOT A BIBLE....!
It is a "Very BAD Paraphrase" of the Holy Scriptures...!
IF... you want a good KJV... translation... get the NKJV.... as the 1611 Language is Updated to the Modern Vernacular !
PERHAPS.... first read my Blog / 360.... simply click onto my AVATAR = picture of the London Underground... and then my 360.
There are several articles there.... HOW TO STUDY THE BIBLE... and ... WHO AM I....!
There is Even.... A Fried Chicken Recipe... there !
(2Timothy 3:15-16-17) And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
(2Ti 3:16) All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
(2Ti 3:17) That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
Thanks for Asking ! RR
2007-10-23 03:09:08
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answered by Anonymous
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SITH: Are you in your "star wars" costume already? Is that your mommy i hear telling you to get off the comp. and make your bed?
The Bible shows The Trinity all over, O.T &N.T, though there was no word for 3 n 1 back in the day. Just read the scripture for yourself you'd have to be blind to believe the "oneness" heresy orthe writers of the word insane. I'll give you verses, also your Dad was right, the versions today are influenced by false orthodoxy, political correctness, unspirituality.
2007-10-23 02:51:20
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answer #5
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answered by pilgrim 2
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In regard to your Bible questions, look at this homepage:
http://www.bythebible.page.tl/
If you read some of the material you will see that many different Bible translations are used. This gives the best understanding. The KJV is a bit too old. The DCR and ASV, ASC are very good translations.
The NIV is a pleasant read in modern English; however, it should be read with care. Some large differences have been introduced.
2007-10-23 02:32:37
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answered by Fuzzy 7
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1 John 5:7 says thy are 3 separate but one
you have a body, soul and spirit 3 separate but one
If i take an egg and crack it
put the shell in one place the yoke in another and the white in another. Do i have 3 eggs no i have 3 distinct and different parts making up a whole egg
the KJV is that only true bible in print for English speaking people. the rest are corrupt
2007-10-23 02:27:53
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answer #7
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answered by jesussaves 7
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try a NIV (new international version) study bible ,it explains passages as you go....very helpful
2007-10-23 02:26:49
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answered by andianaplus3 2
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take English first then follow that with friggin typing class. texting on the computer just makes you look ignorant...
2007-10-23 02:23:28
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answer #9
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answered by Anonymous
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1.Jehovah God is the ONLY TRUE GOD and Creator of the universe and everything in it including our Planet and every living thing on it!
3Jesus is Jehovah God's son
2.The holy spirit is not a person it is God's active force, what he uses to acomplish his work.
No they are not 3 in 1 Jesus and Jehovah are 2 distinct and seperate persons and the holy spirit as I sid before is not a person anyway, but God's power that he uses to do things with.
IF it was true that Jesus was God, it should be clearly and consistently presented in the Bible. Why? Because, as the apostles affirmed, the Bible is God's revelation of himself to mankind. And since we need to know God to worship him acceptably, the Bible should be clear in telling us just who he is.
First-century believers accepted the Scriptures as the authentic revelation of God. It was the basis for their beliefs, the final authority. For example, when the apostle Paul preached to people in the city of Beroea, "they received the word with the greatest eagerness of mind, carefully examining the Scriptures daily as to whether these things were so."-Acts 17:10, 11.
What did prominent men of God at that time use as their authority? Acts 17:2, 3 tells us: "According to Paul's custom . . . he reasoned with them from the Scriptures, explaining and proving by references [from the Scriptures]."
Jesus himself set the example in using the Scriptures as the basis for his teaching, repeatedly saying: "It is written." "He interpreted to them things pertaining to himself in all the Scriptures."-Matthew 4:4, 7; Luke 24:27.
Thus Jesus, Paul, and first-century believers used the Scriptures as the foundation for their teaching. They knew that "all Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work."-2 Timothy 3:16, 17; see also 1 Corinthians 4:6; 1 Thessalonians 2:13; 2 Peter 1:20, 21.
Since the Bible can 'set things straight,' it should clearly reveal information about a matter as fundamental as the Trinity is claimed to be. But do theologians and historians themselves say that it is clearly a Bible teaching?
Does the Bible clearly say that Jesus is God, If that were the Case then the Bible should say so,sometimes people use (John10:30)to prove that Jesus is God, But is that what it says there? No, In Fact, just a few verses later Jesus himself says:"I am God's son"verse36,and in the38th verse, he explains what being one with his Father actually means:I am in union with the Father and the Father is in union with me, in (John8:55)Jesus tells us that he observes God's word, does that make sense if he were God he wouldn't need to follow God's word because he would be God!Just like if Jesus were God he would know the day and hour of when the end of the system of things that we are living in is(Mathew24:36)
A PROTESTANT publication states: "The word Trinity is not found in the Bible . . . It did not find a place formally in the theology of the church till the 4th century." (The Illustrated Bible Dictionary) And a Catholic authority says that the Trinity "is not . . . directly and immediately [the] word of God."-New Catholic Encyclopedia.
The Catholic Encyclopedia also comments: "In Scripture there is as yet no single term by which the Three Divine Persons are denoted together. The word [tri'as] (of which the Latin trinitas is a translation) is first found in Theophilus of Antioch about A. D. 180. . . . Shortly afterwards it appears in its Latin form of trinitas in Tertullian."
However, this is no proof in itself that Tertullian taught the Trinity. The Catholic work Trinitas-A Theological Encyclopedia of the Holy Trinity, for example, notes that some of Tertullian's words were later used by others to describe the Trinity. Then it cautions: "But hasty conclusions cannot be drawn from usage, for he does not apply the words to Trinitarian theology."
Testimony of the Hebrew Scriptures
WHILE the word "Trinity" is not found in the Bible, is at least the idea of the Trinity taught clearly in it? For instance, what do the Hebrew Scriptures ("Old Testament") reveal?
The Encyclopedia of Religion admits: "Theologians today are in agreement that the Hebrew Bible does not contain a doctrine of the Trinity." And the New Catholic Encyclopedia also says: "The doctrine of the Holy Trinity is not taught in the O[ld] T[estament]."
Similarly, in his book The Triune God, Jesuit Edmund Fortman admits: "The Old Testament . . . tells us nothing explicitly or by necessary implication of a Triune God who is Father, Son and Holy Spirit. . . . There is no evidence that any sacred writer even suspected the existence of a [Trinity] within the Godhead. . . . Even to see in [the "Old Testament"] suggestions or foreshadowings or 'veiled signs' of the trinity of persons, is to go beyond the words and intent of the sacred writers."-Italics ours.
An examination of the Hebrew Scriptures themselves will bear out these comments. Thus, there is no clear teaching of a Trinity in the first 39 books of the Bible that make up the true canon of the inspired Hebrew Scriptures.
Testimony of the Greek Scriptures
WELL, then, do the Christian Greek Scriptures ("New Testament") speak clearly of a Trinity?
The Encyclopedia of Religion says: "Theologians agree that the New Testament also does not contain an explicit doctrine of the Trinity."
Jesuit Fortman states: "The New Testament writers . . . give us no formal or formulated doctrine of the Trinity, no explicit teaching that in one God there are three co-equal divine persons. . . . Nowhere do we find any trinitarian doctrine of three distinct subjects of divine life and activity in the same Godhead."
The New Encyclopædia Britannica observes: "Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament."
Bernhard Lohse says in A Short History of Christian Doctrine: "As far as the New Testament is concerned, one does not find in it an actual doctrine of the Trinity."
The New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology similarly states: "The N[ew] T[estament] does not contain the developed doctrine of the Trinity. 'The Bible lacks the express declaration that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are of equal essence' [said Protestant theologian Karl Barth]."
Yale University professor E. Washburn Hopkins affirmed: "To Jesus and Paul the doctrine of the trinity was apparently unknown; . . . they say nothing about it."-Origin and Evolution of Religion.
Historian Arthur Weigall notes: "Jesus Christ never mentioned such a phenomenon, and nowhere in the New Testament does the word 'Trinity' appear. The idea was only adopted by the Church three hundred years after the death of our Lord."-The Paganism in Our Christianity.
Thus, neither the 39 books of the Hebrew Scriptures nor the canon of 27 inspired books of the Christian Greek Scriptures provide any clear teaching of the Trinity.
Taught by Early Christians?
DID the early Christians teach the Trinity? Note the following comments by historians and theologians:
"Primitive Christianity did not have an explicit doctrine of the Trinity such as was subsequently elaborated in the creeds."-The New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology.
"The early Christians, however, did not at first think of applying the [Trinity] idea to their own faith. They paid their devotions to God the Father and to Jesus Christ, the Son of God, and they recognised the . . . Holy Spirit; but there was no thought of these three being an actual Trinity, co-equal and united in One."-The Paganism in Our Christianity.
"At first the Christian faith was not Trinitarian . . . It was not so in the apostolic and sub-apostolic ages, as reflected in the N[ew] T[estament] and other early Christian writings."-Encyclopædia of Religion and Ethics.
"The formulation 'one God in three Persons' was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. . . . Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective."-New Catholic Encyclopedia.
What the Ante-Nicene Fathers Taught
THE ante-Nicene Fathers were acknowledged to have been leading religious teachers in the early centuries after Christ's birth. What they taught is of interest.
Justin Martyr, who died about 165 C.E., called the prehuman Jesus a created angel who is "other than the God who made all things." He said that Jesus was inferior to God and "never did anything except what the Creator . . . willed him to do and say."
Irenaeus, who died about 200 C.E., said that the prehuman Jesus had a separate existence from God and was inferior to him. He showed that Jesus is not equal to the "One true and only God," who is "supreme over all, and besides whom there is no other."
Clement of Alexandria, who died about 215 C.E., called Jesus in his prehuman existence "a creature" but called God "the uncreated and imperishable and only true God." He said that the Son "is next to the only omnipotent Father" but not equal to him.
Tertullian, who died about 230 C.E., taught the supremacy of God. He observed: "The Father is different from the Son (another), as he is greater; as he who begets is different from him who is begotten; he who sends, different from him who is sent." He also said: "There was a time when the Son was not. . . . Before all things, God was alone."
Hippolytus, who died about 235 C.E., said that God is "the one God, the first and the only One, the Maker and Lord of all," who "had nothing co-eval [of equal age] with him . . . But he was One, alone by himself; who, willing it, called into being what had no being before," such as the created prehuman Jesus.
"There is no evidence that any sacred writer even suspected the existence of a [Trinity] within the Godhead."-The Triune God
Origen, who died about 250 C.E., said that "the Father and Son are two substances . . . two things as to their essence," and that "compared with the Father, [the Son] is a very small light."
Summing up the historical evidence, Alvan Lamson says in The Church of the First Three Centuries: "The modern popular doctrine of the Trinity . . . derives no support from the language of Justin [Martyr]: and this observation may be extended to all the ante-Nicene Fathers; that is, to all Christian writers for three centuries after the birth of Christ. It is true, they speak of the Father, Son, and . . . holy Spirit, but not as co-equal, not as one numerical essence, not as Three in One, in any sense now admitted by Trinitarians. The very reverse is the fact."
Thus, the testimony of the Bible and of history makes clear that the Trinity was unknown throughout Biblical times and for several centuries thereafter. And the trinity is not a Bible teaching!
2007-10-23 02:40:09
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answer #10
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answered by I speak Truth 6
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