Does the welfare of children concern religious people? Does the proper.........?

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psychological development of a child not concern them?
Neo natal circumcision causes PTSD in boys and causes sado-masochistic tendencies as an adult....It has even been found that Doctors who are themselves circumcised are more likely to agree to circumcision of a baby due to their own denial of trauma.
Fathers who are circumcised also ask for their boys to be circumcised even after negative effects have been explained to them.
Why can't neo-natal circumcision be banned in civilised society if it is known to cause violent suicidal tendencies as an adult?
http://www.cirp.org/library/psych/

Thats exactly what the article says, RW and Mr glass are in denial and will come up with ridiculous excuses to justify it to keep living in denial. You guys will most likely get your son's circumcised too coz you'd rather have your son in the same state than confront your loss. Useless piece of skin, you moron it's not a vestigial organ and you are actually saying that the loss of a limb wouldn't be painful. Tell that to the guys who've lost them.

While i produce a medical journal your defence is, "No it doesn't " and OMG "what a joke". Seriously man where were you when your god was distributing brains?

Answer 1

Male circumcision is an indefensible form of genital mutilation that serves only socio-religious purposes, except in rare cases Men who had it done as infants will usually defend it though why they do so is beyond me. I refused it for my children.

Answer 2

So I am just a ticking time bomb waiting to go off? No this is complete BS and should not be entertained in the slightest. Leaving the foreskin can cause more problems medically because of cleanliness issues than removing it and when it happened to me I was barely aware of anything. If you can honestly tell me you have memories from birth until now then maybe I will give this some credence, until then this is make believe.


No I am not in denial, I am telling my experiences as I see them. I was less than a week old, I have no memory of anything until I was at the very youngest five. I know from others that during that time I had two plastic surgeries within a week because I was mauled by a dog and knocked over by a cat to hit my head on a fireplace. I was hospitalized with illness or injury on 15 occasions. Do I have any memory of any of this at all, no. I was less than five and have no idea about and what's even better is I spend absolutely zero time thinking about it because I do not remember. If this is true that circumcision causes all kinds of problems then I should have memory of all these instances and be terrified of dogs, cats, horses, bikes, roller skates, ladders, sand and plastic bags. I am not and so to me this medical research is BS and does not have any real basis for me and likely not for anybody else not looking to make a buck by conforming with the current in thing. I have never entertained the idea of suicide, displayed any sado-masochistic tendencies or suffered ptsd because I had no idea what was going on and no memory of the event. In effect, to me it was never there and I never even realized I was circumcised until i reached sex education in elementary school and the difference was explained.

Answer 3

>>"Neo natal circumcision causes PTSD in boys and causes sado-masochistic tendencies as an adult..."<<

no it doesnt.

>>"It has even been found that Doctors who are themselves circumcised are more likely to agree to circumcision of a baby due to their own denial of trauma."<<

lol, what a joke.

>>"Fathers who are circumcised also ask for their boys to be circumcised even after negative effects have been explained to them. "<<

thats because when its done properly there are none.

that site is nonsense and simply untrue, most of it, honestly, is pretty obviously untrue as well.

"permenant loss of sensory function" what? you do realize what we're talking about, right? done properly theres no signifigant loss of any sensory function.

you can't lose something that, for all intents, you never had. if at a week old I had to have my foot removed, for all intents, it was never there. my body would, as much as biologically possible, adapt and compensate for that alleged loss. it would be not signifigantly different for me as a person,than if I had been born without the foot. so theres a slight wrinkle in the skin on the not-foot instead of it being smooth, omg!

when done properly it is not "a traumatic loss of a body part" it is "a minimally, momentarily painful removal of a small bit of useless skin that has little benefit and indirectly causes many problems"

comparing what I've learned over time about various methods of circumcision, and what that site says, it comes down to a very simple thing.

BADLY DONE CIRCUMCISIONS ARE HARMFUL!

wait... badly done of ANY surgical procedure, are harmful.some things have more "cushion" in some form or another as to how badly it can be done before its harmful. some have less.

all of the problems the anatomy page on that site discusses,... I, as a circumcised male... do not have, or at least, they are not relevant.

all those problems I can only imagine being existent when its done badly.

edit: for all intents, yes, it is a vestigal organ. its not a limb being removed from an adult person. and no, removal of a limb at one week old, would not be emotionally painful. because the person would emotionally and physically develop as though they never had it at all. emotional impact of someone say, never having had a foot, is a whole lot different than someone losing their foot as an adult. entirely different!

THINK about it man, comparing psychological impact and behavior before and after? about something done on a one week old baby? get a freakin grip. anything that claims to be able to scientifically have a meaningful result in those situations is obviously full of crap. and waiting long enough for it to be done so that the "subject" has enough mental state to compare with, would entirely change the nature of the situation! I don't "miss" having a foreskin any more than I miss having a placenta.

you are completley not appriciating the OBVIOUS and MASSIVE difference between something occuring once the person is even minimally matured. children are resillient. if an injury like that happens, especially as early as only a week old, once its healed the body adapts and compensates. the person, who they are as they grow, can't have missed it because their entire existance as far as they have the remotest memory of, that "missing" thing is not there.

sorry you really need to work on reading critically and thinking, not just trusting whatever someone with some dr-like alphabet soup before/after their name tells you is so.

I am telling you, as a matter of FACT. that there is no substantial sensory void, (if that ridged band or whatever had ever existed for me, then I admit this might be different. but I'm not missing having something, and its not like I feel like there should be a sensation there thats not.
the problems that site lists... I don't have. (maybe I got lucky and got it done by some sort of super-expert or something and it was done just perfectly... I don't know. theoretically I guess thats possible)

when its done by the traditional jewish method its entirely over with in a matter of minutes, and nearly everyone I've heard about it has a similar story of how someone dips their finger in wine and the baby sucks on it and they stop crying and forget that anything even happened.

can you truly not appriciate the difference between an event happening at a week old and it happening as a grown person?

Answer 4

Christians do care for the Welfare of Children. Many of the organisations dealing with the welfare of Children were started by Christians, through the Churches, or Christian people.

Answer 5

Jesus said feed and help the poor.A child that is starving to death in the richest country in the world is a sin.

Answer 6

Seems like some pretty twisted and confused thinking there.