One God believer: If God only one, then why in the bible or koran God use 'we' or 'us' to point to Himself?

Question

Please, only the believer required to answer this.

Thanks for answering, but still I dont understand if you guys said 'we' or 'us' presenting the honour. Also if you said that God point to God and the angels, coz the only creator only God, no angels can help creator's work.

How about these point:
Rev 3:1 "To the angel of the church in Sardis write: "This is the message from the one who has the seven spirits of God and the seven stars. I know what you are doing; I know that you have the reputation of being alive, even though you are dead!

So there were not only 3 but 7! What do you think?

Answer 1

My personal conviction is that "we" and "us" as it appears in the early chapters of Genesis is a reference to the Trinity - Father, Son and Holy Spirit; all of whom were involved in the creation process. Christians believe in One God existing in three Persons. I cannot speak for the Koran.
It is noteworthy that in the first verse of the Bible, the word "God" is from the plural form of the Hebrew word for God (Elohim); yet the verb form in the first sentence is in the singular form:

"In the beginning Elohim (plural form) created (singular form) the heavens and the earth..."
Genesis 1:1

Answer 2

Is the "US and WE" used in religious books a perfect example of the DANGER of translating Divine Revelation ?

In Divine texts God refers to himself in the most majestic terms.

Just like in some ancient kingdoms the courts would refer to the King in the plural sense to show honor and majesty.

THIS is exactly why the words in Aramaic and Arabic words which refer to God in the Absolute single tense – they are impossible to be used in the plural sense but when they are TRANSLATED, to show their majestic meaning in the original language, they are made into WE and US .

In Hebrew, G-d is known to be a singular entity and for this reason Jews consider the Trinity to be Polytheism. Those who do not speak Hebrew think His name is plural. Elokim is a plural noun. But, in Hebrew, the verbs always have to match the nouns, so if the noun is plural, so must the verb be. However, whenever Elokim is used, the verb following is ALWAYS singular. So we know that Elokim is an irregular word and has a plural ending but is actually singular.

This is an example of the EXTREME danger when Revealed books are translated and re-translated without keeping the original Aramaic, Arabic or Hebrew text with knowledge of the original language it was revealed in.




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Answer 3

you realize I desire you're able to come to my church and heard this priest of ours carry forth approximately Christianity, and compares it with the Koran in Islam. unquestionably, he develop into as quickly as a muslim. and that i believe he did say some thing like in Koran which believe that basically 2 human beings whom no longer touch via sins: Mariam and Isa. He mentioned that, yet I under no circumstances double checked it on account that i'm no longer able to study the Koran. And he can communicate Arabian too, so i believe he did understand what he's speaking approximately. So my factor is he continually like evaluate that unquestionably the Koran and the bible have common issues. So yeah, i believe we even pray for the comparable God. on account that there is merely basically one God. And for all the religions, i might opt to think of it like this: We pray for the single comparable God, yet a thank you to desire it (the doctrines, rituals, way of praying) are distinctive. yet ultimately we are directed our ideals to the comparable God. i might opt to believe so. yet i'm opened to greater theories.

Answer 4

God has created, is running, and will destroy the Universe. God is the Origin and Destination of the Universe. God was, is, will be everywhere, God was never Created and will never die / be destroyed. God is beyond Life and Death. All religions of world teach human way to get close to God. You give your Best, God will give thy Best. Ask God for help and forgive, God will help and forgive you. Pray; Worship and Thank God for everything. Remember wherever there is Happiness in Life, there will be Sorrow. To get Happiness, you must master Sorrow. For Success in Life; Believe in Self and God, Learn from Past, Concentrate in Present, Plan for Future. Have control on, be the master of, not the slave of your body, senses, and mind. Purpose of this Life is to Gain and Share utmost Knowledge and Experience to differentiate and choose Right, Good, God against Wrong, Bad, Devil. Set your Desire level perfect or OK to be brave, no low to be coward, no high to be cruel. You have rights of Survival, Self Defence, and Freedom.

Answer 5

Yes really in line with islamic teaching God is only one called Allah no ally with Allah.In the Koran God use "we or us" because sometimes in the name of God and all angels.As we know angels were created by Allah from light,humans from soil and satans or iblis from fire.Angels have no desires or lusts.They are always loyal to God.They comply to the insructions and prohibitions of AllahThey have no sin at all.They are the assistants of God.Angels are the mediators between humans and God the greatest creator and regulator.God owns this universe with all of its contents..

Answer 6

Man was cerated in the image of God right? Or so says scripture. Therefore to answer this qustion we must look at mankind.

mankind is triune: spirit, soul, and body

see here:

1 Thess 5:
23: And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

So if man is triune so is God, since we are made in His image, and scripture backs up this trinity.

Now imagine if each part of you; spirit, soul, and body were given their own life. Wouldn't each part be still you? So it is with God. scripture even tells us that the Father and Jesus have their own life.

Joh 5:26
For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath
he given to the Son to have life in himself;

Answer 7

He is also using word YOU instead of THOU. It is just for respect, to represent his exalted position like king and seniors use this. Some times it is including the messenger angels and prophets/ believers. There is no chance of its meaning being Trinity of Multi while he has told many a times clearly about his Oneness.

The similar is the case of Jesus, he called him son of man and son of God and he called other people also sons of many a times. Only one time Simon and Peter called only son, people have caught this word and forgot all preaching of Jesus and invented a new faith against his teachings in his name.

Answer 8

One thing I need to clarify here is that God in the Bible is not the same as God in the Koran.

God of the Bible is three in one, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

Answer 9

God is referring to the Trinity. Think of it as an apple cut into three pieces (the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit). There are three separate pieces, but still only one apple. For the sake of comparison say that God is the same way. There is only one God, but three separate persons (again, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit).

Answer 10

the bible and koran were recorded by falible human beings mistakes were made. even though they were inspired by the lord. only the ten commandments were written with the finger of the only god. by the one and only true god the alpha and omega. creator of the heavens and earth.