The magical fantasy found in the Bible will come at a later date. My next question Christians is this. If Jesus Christ is the son of God then how is he God. God, The Son, And The Holy Ghost are all the same exact being. When God sent his Son which was him to begin with, why did he pray to his father if he was his father this doesn't make any sense.
2007-10-22
15:33:10
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So what your saying fortunate... is i am going to burn in Hell for asking a simple question to try and better understand Christianity (Remember thou shall not judge)
2007-10-22
15:41:47 ·
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But why would he bow don't on his knees and literately pray to his father if he is the father? That's what I'm trying to say here!
2007-10-22
15:44:54 ·
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hbuckmei i have read the Bible and dont should be down above
2007-10-22
15:46:39 ·
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wfestroc... you want me to change my picture to a shiny cross and name myself rainbow sorry that's just not my style!
2007-10-22
15:53:40 ·
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Here's what I gathered. See if you can make it out:
God tells angels to worship Him:
6 And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says,
"Let all God's angels worship him." (Hebrews 1 & Psalm 45)
God calls Jesus God:
8 But about the Son he says,
"Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever,
and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom.
9You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;
therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions
by anointing you with the oil of joy."
(Hebrews 1 & Psalm 45)
Jesus says that God is Spirit:
24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth." (John 4)
Jesus calls God the Father:
John 20:17
Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.' "
Jesus says that the Father and him are one:
30 "I and the Father are one."
Jesus calls himself 'from everlasting to everlasting ':
58"I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!" (John 8)
Jesus is in Daniel 7 as the Most High, having a separate set of independent actions from the Ancient of Days:
13 "In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. 14 He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.
21 As I watched, this horn was waging war against the saints and defeating them, 22 until the Ancient of Days came and pronounced judgment in favor of the saints of the Most High, and the time came when they possessed the kingdom.
Jesus is the son of man because there are two versions of what 'son of man' means in Jewish scriptures. One meaning is simply the son of a man. The other meaning is Son of Man - a prophetic figure having to do with the Messiah.
2007-10-22 15:46:57
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answered by Christian Sinner 7
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Jesus was with God when God formed and created the earth and everything. The Bible says, Jesus is the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God. Jesus left Heaven to be born of a women, to become the Son of man. As well as God manifested in the flesh. Through the Holy Spirit, and power of God, Jesus became the Son of God.
2007-10-22 15:41:21
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answered by Anonymous
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A) Jesus is the son of man because he was born of a woman who was the descendant of David, who was king of Judah: that is, Jesus is the last & everlasting king of Judah.
B) Jesus is the son of God...the name(s) of God being sacred and not for discussion here, but easy to look up and understand if you want to.
C) Jesus and the Father are not the same person, only they are in agreement more deeply than we could ever appreciate. you're correct, it would be absurd that he would pray to himself... a clue to understanding...look at the beginning, how a man and a woman would cleave together and become ONE. There are some additional things...
the father speaks...his word is an eternal word, living and real, yet it is ONE with GOD because it is of GOD, indeed the Word of GOD is God, or a god. Jesus Christ is that word, incarnate, the fulfilling of the word Let us make man in our image, and He & his disciples are doing just that.
2007-10-22 16:28:28
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answered by Greg 4
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Jesus is the Son of God as the second person of the Trinity. Jesus is not God all by Him self. He shares the Divinity with two other persons, but there is still only ONE God. Jesus is BOTH God (conceived by Holy Spirit as the Son of God) and man (born of a mother with a human nature). The Holy Spirit is the third Person in God that impregnated Mary who gave birth to The Son of God who is also a man. Jesus is not God the Father nor is he God the Holy Spirit. He can communicate to the Father as both a man and as the Son of God. There are not three gods here, but three persons in ONE God.
2007-10-22 15:49:01
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answered by gismoII 7
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Jesus was unique in that he shared two different natures. He had a human body through his mother, and so was the son of man. But he also had a divine nature through his father God, and so was also the son of God. Kind of like a person with parents of mixed nationality could be something like Spanish and Chinese at the same time.
There are some areas in which God has given man authority, and other areas that reserves for himself. When Jesus was operating under his authority as a human being, he called himself the son of man. When he was operating under his authority as God, he referred to himself as the son of God.
During the time he was in his physical body, Jesus used the same authorities given to any other human to do many things. That includes quoting scripture, praying, fasting, being infilled with the Holy Spirit, etc. So when he was acting under human authority, he talked to God (who since he is everywhere at all times) was still in heaven ready to listen.
If you read John 11, he explains there that one of the reasons he prayed was so that others would hear it, see that it is answered, and have faith in God.
2007-10-22 15:43:33
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answered by dewcoons 7
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This will clarify, God sent His son Jesus to earth in human form to represent His father who is in heaven! Jesus actually sits at the right hand of the father in heaven!! The Blessed Trinity (God in 3 persons):
1. God The (heavenly) father
2. God the Son (Jesus Christ): a representation of God in Human Form who was sent by God himself, and sacrificed to save us all from our sin, therefore paying our 'sin debt' in full so we could have eternal salvation.
3. God the Holy Spirit ( which is what He is and always was)
2007-10-22 16:06:28
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answered by Linda M 4
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As God the Lord Jesus Christ had to come to earth as a man so He could die for our sins and rise again the third day for our justification. Philippians 2: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: Philippians 2: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: Philippians 2: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Romans 4: 25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
2007-10-22 15:46:17
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answered by Ray W 6
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Another one disecting the bible or wanting to start chaos within religion. You are a dark angel. I wish all these bible disectors would just read the bible and stop disecting it. If they would just follow it in its simplicity all would be fine. No, they have to disect it and make assumptions about others writings in it. They don't know the person, or why they chose to write it, yet they disect it like they are some human form that will come up with an answer about something we as mere humans will never understand. What happened to you either believe in God or you don't? Why use the bible whose people are way beyond dead and you can't ask questions to their knowledge or why they wrote what they did? Assumptions creates an ***.
2007-10-22 15:42:32
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answered by hbuckmeister 5
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Do you have any Children? If not, or if so, is (any or your) child more (one or you) than (the other or your spouse)? Does that Child share your chromosomes and genes? Is that child both that (part of you) and unique unto itself?
This is the only human example we have. But, if this is true on earth wouldn't deduction allow for the same ability to exist elsewhere in the universe?
People love dogma...most will answer with that as their primary focal point. why not allow every man to be proved a liar and allow the book and Christ speak for itself and be proved true to you. Ask yourself this question; Would a loving creator have gone through all of the things he has to provide you atonement and his word only to by confusing to man? Doesn't his actions indicate that he wants to be understood, loved, and to be part of our lives? No mystery needed.
The Holy Spirit was never claimed by Christ as part of co-equal relationship. He never said if you have seen me you have seen the father. He did however show that he could send "it" to us and that "it" would help us.
2007-10-22 15:48:52
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answered by Old guy 5
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Yahshua is NOT YHWH, the Father, for there is ONE God. It is YHWH that Yahshua pointed TO, not to Himself. He NEVER declared Himself to be God, but the FIRSTBORN Son of God, which, being the firstborn, He could SPEAK FOR the Father. You must understand the ancient ways between a father and his sons, and the relation to the FIRSTBORN SON, to understand this. That is why, to most people, what the 'church' says doesn't make sense....because it really DOESN'T make sense at all.
2007-10-22 15:43:01
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answered by witnessnbr1 4
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