Don't confuse me with the facts or expert opinion I just know man is not causing global warming?

Question

Does this fit your assessment of the situation?

karen : one icecap is melting the other is increasing

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2003/07aug_southpole.htm

Markymar... yes a lot of Antarctica may be getting thicker but the phenomena is understood and does not mean we need not be concerned about global warming http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AvdhUO7Kr7MAqMEeUkkMwjggBgx.;_ylv=3?qid=20071017055639AAiUCWE

I understand that early in the second half of the twentieth century there was some cooling due aerosols from volcanoes and dirty industrial processes reflecting the sun's radiation.

As Dana1981 says it is scary how many people answered yes to this question. I think there may be some reasons why people feel justified. Firstly the climate change may not be immediately and distinctly apparent where they live or even if they accept it is happening the possibility that it is not man made may be attractive. The second factor is the complexity of the various aspects of climate science and the trust that can be placed on experts in their interpretation. I suspect that for many people their contact with scientific explanations is through sales literature for a car or washing machine and they know from bitter experience not to rely too much on this kind of scientific expertise which can truly be designed to confuse and even deceive. I am as sceptical as anyone when faced with a highly technical sales brochure but I think climate science is different in that it is pure science on a very important subject to get right with many scientists involved (cont.)

There is much checking and verifying of results. I truly believe that scientists examine what appear to be anomalies and uncertainties with an open mind and see whether they can be cleared up with the help of extra data or possible explanations. Many of these apparent anomolies or uncertainties have been discussed at length on YA (including the Martian climate). It would be very surprising indeed if there were not uncertainties and anomalies in a subject as complex as climate with so many factors at work.

Answer 1

Yes -global warming is fiction...
I guess you know the facts though -
the world is flat-
Santa-clause is real-
The moon is made of cheese-
God exists-
If you don't step on the cracks in the pavement - everything will be o.k.

Answer 2

In reply to the post a couple of days ago, I am an environmental scientist, yet I am also able to look past the science you get presented to you in the media, it is hyped to alarmism level to get peoples attention by the reports having emotional wording as well as scientific terms included, this is not the way scientists should work.
Your point about anomolies, the IPCC (a political/scientific body that has collated data) scientific report for example is only working on 3 decades of solar irradiance (energy from the sun) and also looks at it as though it were constant, anything outside of that is an anomoly and they do not include it in their report.
Many scientists manipulate the data they get to fit their hypothesis by leaving out "anomolies", it is bad science and we have a situation where they are doing it to get funding, if you have a hypothesis that counters human caused global warming then it is very difficult to get funding for your research, if you mention it is for human induced global warming then you are gauranteed to get funding.
As for the models they are using, well where to start, they have not got an understanding of the physics involved with the different layers of atmosphere and how they interact, they miss out one big thing, water vapour, which is the largest influence on the atmosphere and many other things such as black body radiation of each component within the atmosphere, they are bundled together with terms such as aerosols and the like when each aerosol should be taken seperately.
This does not mean the planet is not warming at present, it is and with the fact that CO2 lags temperature by about 800 years it is more likely to do with events from in the past, combined with a small amount from now due to our activities, estimations are that man is only contributing about 0.2C rise in temperature over the last 100 years, yet we have had 0.7C rise. Geologists are finding that magma activity is building, this would cause more heat to emanate from the ground, and contrary to some opinions the sun has increased its output between 25% - 36% in the last half of the 20th Century.
There is no point in waiting for government to do anything, they are just working in the best interests of corporations, the money that has changed hands, especially in the US and UK is a sign of this. It is best to start using the vote to get people in that will actually do something about making our impact drop and be more sustainable due to the fact we want a clean environment to live and that there are limited resources and we don't want another world war over something as pathetic as oil (IMO).

Answer 3

No, it does not, however I think Man's effect is so slight as not to be worth the hysterical panic created by the Leftists for their own gain. I also know that many scientists depend of these same Leftists for their jobs, their funding, for publication and for their continuing careers and being human are pressured into giving answers that please those in power. Scientists are just working people and subject to the same desires for approval and advancement as anyone. Scientists can and do fudge their findings to please their superiors. A consensus under political pressure may not be valid.

While Man may contribute a fraction of a percent to warming, it is mostly due to natural causes beyond our control. I also listen to scientists, those who do not depend directly or indirectly on Leftists for their careers, and many of them doubt the GW template.

Answer 4

Wow, it's kind of scary how many people answered 'yes' to this question.

It's a very dangerous mindset when somebody is 100% certain about such an important subject, regardless of which side they're on. I'm convinced that humans are the primary cause of the current warming, but I'm open to changing my mind if the evidence presents itself.

When you're sure about something and you're wrong, that's a bad state of mind to be in.

Answer 5

The first answer illustrates how wrong most people are about climate change!!

Mankind is not causing climate change - he is contributing to it and thereby lies very big difference.

Climate change is natural and happened in varying ways throughout the Earths history.

The reason why man is targeted though is that whilst there is very little we can do about the natural changes caused by nature we can do something to limit the effect we have on the climate.

Answer 6

i wouldn't label it global warming that humans are accused of,but rather interfering with the order of natural events. the super charged forest fires are directly the result of the EPA and THA,(tree huggers of america) deciding to fight forest fires instead of letting it burn it's self out as "nature"intended,to clear out dead trees that fell to the forest floor as well as dead leaves thick underbrush and new growth that grows to thick. allowed to do this,the fires stay near the ground and not build up to tree top heights as they do now. changing the course of rivers,streams and creeks causes flood areas that normally wouldn't be. when high water fills the rivers,it automatically tends to follow its NATURAL course,but because of HUMAN interference,you have flooding. A good example of this was the flooding of the mississippi river in the 1990s. the river at one time was diverted. HUMANS built a town in the old river bed,and WOLLA!! we all know what happened there. the mouth of the Mississippi at the Gulf of Mexico used to be a vast area of a river delta. that protected the land mass from the full force of hurricans. after they built all those dikes to hold back the water for NEW ORLEANS,the sand built up behind them and destroyed the river delta. not to mention that the weight of that city is slowly sinking,because it was part of the delta marsh lands. the vast cities that we build has an effect on the climate directly because of area and massive buildings,which stop the natural flow of the wind. the trees and vegetations is striped from the land taking with it Natures way of cooling the surface and cleaning the air of co2. it does effect the normal rain patters and Natural water filtrations and water levels. what the Army Corps of Engineers did to the Florida everglades is more than outrages,it borders on criminal. all in the name of sugar cane. they final realized years later that the EVERGLADES was not a marsh or swamp,but a river that flows at 7mph. One of the greatest water filtration systems in this country was all but destroyed,not to mention the well balanced ecosystem. they started to put the river that feeds the EVERGLADES back the way it was,but like everything else,i'm afraid it won't get finished. if HUMANS would think before doing,perhaps there wouldn't so severe polution or "natural"(?)disastors as we have seen these days. Only when HUMANS fool with the NATURAL order of things do things really get *&%@ up! left alone nature will take of it's self,and clean up it's own messes!! and correct it's mistakes.

Answer 7

Don't confuse me with facts or expert opinion. I KNOW man is not causing global warming and I'm smarter all those in the scientific community who claim otherwise,
I've devoted my life to extensive research on the subject and you don't have to tell me anything, because I KNOW IT ALL!! Don't expect me to listen to what those 'experts' have to say! -RKO- 10/22/07

Answer 8

Why do you beloieve some facts and not others?

How about the fact that the South POle is actually getting thicker?

How about the fact the the temperature incresaed by 0.5 degrees in the 1st half of the 20th centuary and by 0.25 degrees in the 2nd? The rate is actually decreasing showing an inverse correlation to the supposed increase in CO2 emissions.

I look at facts on both sides, rather than blindly following those on 1 side.

Does this fit your assessment of the situation?

Answer 9

Just to add another thought is, the fact that whatever the Sun dose directly infuences Earth conditions, as well as on the other planets.

But there is no reason why we shouldnt keep our air clean, rather than inhaleing crap that shouldnt be in our lungs in the first place.

Answer 10

Everyone who doesn't have a political axe to grind knows that the jury's out on this question. History tells use that climate change has been happening since the beginning of time. But there does SEEM to have been an accelleration of 'global warming' during recent years. Just how much men are responsible is in dispute. More likely to be women I think :)