According to Christian dogma. So long as there is hell,there can be no all true Heaven-if some where in creation souls suffer for all eternity,I want no part in a place called Heaven,I believe true heaven can only exist when there is absolutley no suffering,the idea of hell and heaven existing,say on separate planes-is like sweeping some under the rug-who could enjoy heaven knowing some place people are burning forever-it's ******* cruel,is that the nature of an almighty creator,not one I want to be associated with .
2007-10-21 12:49:26 · 24 answers · asked by prole1984 5 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
I see that you don't have a clue about what heaven and hell is all about, do you?......Read this and find out the truth......http://www.ucg.org/booklets/HL/
2007-10-21 13:08:13 · answer #1 · answered by TIAT 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Christian dogma is not true Hell,hades and Sheol are just words that mean grave. Even the pope said hell isn't hot anymore.
Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living are conscious that they will die;but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten. 6 Also, their love and their hate and their jealousy have already perished, and they have no portion anymore to time indefinite in anything that has to be done under the sun.
2007-10-21 13:06:02 · answer #2 · answered by bongobeat25 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
First, Silver, Great answer!
To the Question:
What don't you people get. You can't pick and choose what you want. "I want a heaven but no hell. I want everybody to go there." That unfortunately is not how it is. There is evil in this world that you can't see. God is perfect and cannot tolerate sin. He set the rules to get in too. Its simple: believe in Him and live in heaven forever.
There is one part I just like to mention. Everyone will live forever! How you spend eternity is up to you though. Smoking or Non.
2007-10-21 13:03:30 · answer #3 · answered by Reds 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Hell will contain a hundred billion souls at least, writhing and screaming in agony throughout eternity. You got a problem with that?
Heaven will actually provide viewing rooms, where you can go in and put on earphones and put on holy goggles and peer into Hell, and watch atheists in horrid suffering, their angry moans and bloody gargling sounds will fill Hell's putrid sky.
You may even enjoy watching when you get to Heaven. I assume you're not an atheist.
2007-10-21 12:57:07 · answer #4 · answered by 2.71828182845904 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
I agree with your question. A big sticking point for Christian dogma is how they reconcile a loving God with the idea of eternal torture.
I want to address a point brought up by Oplist. That was a good one and it made me think. She compared life in heaven to the way we live here on earth, after the passing away of our loved ones.
I would like to ask if it isn't precisely because we don't know where our loved ones really are, that we are able to go on laughing and playing even after the passing away of our loved ones? Just think hypothetically, if you were to know for sure that a loved one of yours is in hell after they've passed away. Would you then be able to laugh and play and carry on as normal? There's a difference between not knowing what happened to them and knowing for sure that they're in hell (because you don't see them in heaven).
We imagine our loved ones to be in a better place, because it makes life easier for us here. Otherwise, we really couldn't go on living.
2007-10-21 13:16:53 · answer #5 · answered by H.u.S 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
God doesn't choose for us whether we go to heaven or hell. What we do in life determines that. If we choose a life of sin, then an afterlife of sin is all we can expect.
Everyone wants a world where anyone and everyone can go to heaven which truly exists. All of us CAN go to heaven and if we truly will it and live as if we did want heaven, then heaven is where we'll be. "Damnation..." is a rather heavy word. In truth, God doesn't "damn" anybody. Rather, it's what people make of their lives.
2007-10-21 13:02:13 · answer #6 · answered by skippingstones 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
well, according to Protestantism, (i'm not sure about Catholic...) God gives you a choice if you want to go to heaven or hell. people who choose not to believe to to hell and those who believe Jesus is the Son of God and live a Christian life will go to heaven. People who suffer in hell have only themselves to blame. God is a loving God who does not want you to suffer in hell but he gives a choice. He wants you to pick the right one. I'm no expert but i hope i cast some light on your question....
2007-10-21 12:56:45 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
You fail to realize that mankind has chosen to suffer by rejecting the Laws of Yahweh which would have prevented the suffering in the first place.
Mankind is learning a valuable lesson the hard way, a lesson that we will never forget. Sin (the breaking of Yahweh's laws) brings forth death and suffering. Quit blaming Yahweh and learn to live.
Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin [is] death;
I Yahchanan (John) 2:4—
He who says: I know Him, but does not keep His Law,
is a liar, and the Truth is not in him.
I Yahchanan (John) 3:4—
Whoever commits sin, transgresses also the Law; for
sin is the transgression of the Law.
Deu 30:19 I call heaven and earth as witnesses this day against you, [that] I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
Deu 30:20 That thou mayest love Yahweh your Father, [and] that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he [is] thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which Yahweh your Father sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Yaaqob, to give them.
Choose wisely!
2007-10-21 13:00:53 · answer #8 · answered by YUHATEME 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
That's one of the reasons I don't believe in Christianity. To preach love and forgiveness simultaneously with eternal damnation doesn't sit quite right with me. And what about Christian people imagine you are a Christian imagine you are dead and in heaven and your friend/parent/sibling wasn't a Christian how could you enjoy paradise knowing that the d
creator you profess to love has allowed this to happen to others who you love?
It's too twisted, it makes me sick.
2007-10-21 12:56:09 · answer #9 · answered by munchkin 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
the point here is that one is true and exist the other is a lie , heaven exist but hell as a place created by Jesus to torture many christians (Yes Many according to Matthew 7:21-23)
is false.
The lake of fire or Gehenna means second death (Revelation 20:14) and is not hell (SHEOL) and that means to die forever with no hope of resurrection but not that Jesus will torture the false christians but they will die forever.
2007-10-21 12:52:42 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋
I think "hell" is the place we live= Existence.
because being alive here on earth means daily struggle for food, clothing, shelter, medications, insurance, old age etc.
True heaven can only be found when we die= Death.
because when we die we do not need to worry of hunger, sickness, payments , etc.
2007-10-21 14:01:41 · answer #11 · answered by candy 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋