Is the Knights of Templar from the crusades really Freemason?

Question

or is it the http://www.templars.org.uk/ site? Why would they make a website claiming to be the knights of templar when their not?

And how do we know that Freemason is The today Knights of Templar? The Knights Templar can't just vanish like THAT, where are their relatives that possibly carried down (maybe) secrets?
And do you also believe that their are many more secrets down in the Vatican archives that we will never know about and is important to our history of Knights Templar, etc, but the Vatican will never reveal?
Anyone care to answer me these questions or even one of these questions?

Answer 1

People claim to be all sorts of things that they are not. The Freemasons originated in 17th or 18th century Scotland and are rooted in the older trade guilds of Europe. I've never seen the slightest bit of evidence that connects them to the Templars.

Freemasons are one of those groups that are constantly mentioned in conspiracy theories...as are the Templars, which may have been how they got connected. Troll the internet for a bit and you can find theories that the Freemasons, the Templars, Satanists, the New World Order, the Illuminati and the Rosicrucians are all part of the same shadow government secretly ruling the world. Oh, and George W. Bush runs it. Or John Kerry. Or both. The problem with conspiracy theories is that they lack actual evidence...whatever evidence is actually offered only connects the groups in question if you make a whole lot of completely faulty presumptions, but the conspiracy theory will speak of those presumptions as if they are well known fact.

Answer 2

It's Knights Templar, not "of Templar."

Anyway, I just got "The Freemasons: A History of the World's Most Powerful Secret Society" by Jasper Ridley, and I haven't read it yet. But on the inside dust jacket it says ". . . a secret society purported, in some histories, to have its roots in the fabled order of the Knights Templar . . ." So there is certainly some connection between Templars and Freemasons which causes historians to decide that the Freemasons have "roots in" the Templars.

I looked at the link you provided, and they seem serious. Of course, they don't have a direct link with the original Templars, because they were rounded up and executed early in the 14th century. Another group sprung up in the 18th century, and so it goes. If you look at the details on that web site you linked, you will find the newest organization is a joining of three earlier groups, and that was in the 21st century. My guess is both the modern Templars and the Freemasons, as well as several other "secret" societies, are based on the Templars. And actually, there is plenty of evidence that all of these, and especially recognized by the Rosicrucians, were based on the ancient Egyptian rites encoded in the Pyramids.

It's all really old, and has clearly undergone many changes: dare we say they have evolved?

Answer 3

The Freemasons "officially" deny any connection to the Knights Templar (as far as Freemasons are able to do anything officially). When "Born in Blood" was released (claiming that the Freemasons were descended from the Knights Templar), several Lodges in Scotland sent detailed information to the author, who later admitted that there was no such connection. Several European Grand Lodges in the 19th century spent several weeks analyzing the issue, and released an official statement denying that the Freemasons were Knights Templar.
Nevertheless, many people still propagate the myth that the Freemasons are descended from the Knights Templar.

As for your website, they specifically state that they are NOT Freemasons, and have no connection whatsoever with Freemasonry. That is not a Masonic website - it is a modern Templar organization.

Answer 4

Freemasonry has a long history dating from at least the 17th century, but some members are not satisfied, and they like to give it a much older history, sometimes back to the building of the pyramids.

It's like family history- sometimes a family will try to trace it's family tree back to royalty and nobility, even if it isn't really true.