Nope, sorry, haven't read that one.
I realize a lot of people, even scientists, still fall prey to cognitive dissonance and psychological compartmentalization.
2007-10-20 16:58:54
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answered by ZER0 C00L ••AM••VT•• 7
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I doubt you, and plenty of other Xians know the difference between Deism and Xianity.
IE-Einstein was most certainly not Xian but he has a few quotes about a 'He' so a lot rush to the assumption he was Christian even though he said plenty of anti-Xian remarks. I haven't memorized any but I read them on here so it should be easy enough to find. I realize that a lot of people raised Christian who become atheist, resort to the something had to start everything so they say there's an individual deity that must have started it all.the same
An individual can not spontaneously produce a world that requires duplicity for reproduction and multiplicity for any complex thought or action.
I don't know why this Collins would claim to be Christian but there are plenty of extremely well educated atheists. Two that immediately come to mind...Richard Dawkins (grad. from Oxford-is an author and professor at Berkley)
Bert Ehrman (author, graduated 3 colleges (Moody (Billy Graham's Alma mater) & Princeton-can't remember the first one) but he also memorized the Book of Mark in Greek
Sorry, I really doubt there are many with an extensive education that believe that particular myth.
2007-10-20 17:22:28
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answered by strpenta 7
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Even with their belief in God their scientific work built an understanding of the universe where God (and his related supernatural entities such as Satan, sin, heaven, the Bible ect.) is not required for it's explanation, continuation or creation.
Your first statement is an excellent support for atheism.
Your second statement is false.
Your third statement ignores the fact that Collins is not a biblical literalist and believes that much of the Bible is allegory. While he's a decent geneticist he's also a really poor philosopher.
2007-10-22 18:51:15
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answered by sgtcosgrove 7
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You are delusional and what you write is a lie you have been told by the psychotic religionists.
So Francis S. Collins went crazy. As Dr. Albert Ellis PhD the grandfather of cognitive therapy and father of REBT Rational Emotive Therapy who has treated thousands of people and has help more people than any other person in history said
"Even a raven maniac need not be totally UN-scientific." That explains Francis S. Collins and other like him. I'd also think that he may have just been rebelling when he proclaimed to be an atheist.
Religion IS a mental sickness and all who believe in any religion in any way are in FACT mentally sick.
2007-10-20 17:09:19
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answered by gdc 3
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Which atheist scientists have set out to prove the non-existence of God. It is generally perceived that you can't disprove the non-existence of anything.
There is lots of evidence for belief. Belief in gods is brought on by fear and has been for many thousands of years. No question that this exceptional fear/belief problem has become a genetic imprint.
Of course, this is in no way is evidence of God or Zeus or Thor or Venus -----------etc.
2007-10-20 17:12:21
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answered by Anonymous
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Mum always asked me: So if Johnny up the road jumps off a cliff, are you going to do it too?
I have never been a follower (I wasn't a good soldier).
I look at evidence and experience - NONE support the god belief.
You too could look and see the same thing BUT you have succumbed to the main xian weapon.
It's called FEAR - fear of death and fear of hell.
Whilst ever you fear, you can not grow.
You need to question all 'truths'.
Try out this philosophy.
The Buddha's Kalama Sutra
Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it.
Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books.
Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
But when, after observation and analysis, you find anything that agrees with reason, and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.
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2007-10-20 17:07:04
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answered by Anonymous
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Any theistic scientist who is any good at his job knows to keep the two separate. Like Father Lemaitre. That man helped advance the Big Bang theory and slammed a cardinal for proclaiming the Big Bang was proof God created the universe, telling him religion and science should NEVER comment on each other.
2007-10-20 17:02:31
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answered by 雅威的烤面包机 6
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Most of them lived before Darwin, like Issac Newton.
Collins is an exception, which is fine. But note that he believes in evolution. The fundamentalists are unlikely to produce major scientists today, mostly because they support unscientific challenges to science, like creationism . Many are also against stem cell research, which has the potential to save millions of lives. The more tolerant, pro-science Christians are likely to produce many people who are good at science, provided they learn about it like everybody else.
Edit: I do want to read the book by Collins. Instead of a dull minded preacher ranting to his congregations for attention, Collins actually seems informed and interested in scientist. I wasn't impressed by one of his articles, which went along the lines of "there could be a god, so it is the Judeo-Christian god obviously), but the book could be different. I will check it out.
2007-10-20 16:58:58
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answered by Dalarus 7
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That simply is not true.
"The latest survey involved 517 members of the National Academy of Sciences; half replied. When queried about belief in "personal god," only 7% responded in the affirmative, while 72.2% expressed "personal disbelief," and 20.8% expressed "doubt or agnosticism." Belief in the concept of human immortality, i.e. life after death declined from the 35.2% measured in 1914 to just 7.9%. 76.7% reject the "human immortality" tenet, compared with 25.4% in 1914, and 23.2% claimed "doubt or agnosticism" on the question, compared with 43.7% in Leuba's original measurement. Again, though, the highest rate of belief in a god was found among mathematicians (14.3%), while the lowest was found among those in the life sciences fields -- only 5.5%."
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2007-10-20 17:02:18
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answered by AuroraDawn 7
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Argumentum ad populum, but what the hell:
Polls taken recently show that religiosity among scientists is around 40% in this country, with religiosity in the population as a whole is 85% or higher. I'll post the link when I find it.
2007-10-20 17:01:02
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answered by Doc Occam 7
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Hmm, but many of the greatest scientists of all time lived in a time where not believing in God could, and sometimes did, result in death. If I was threatened with my life, I wouldn't feel very confident in publicly stating my atheistism either.
2007-10-20 17:02:04
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answered by Anonymous
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