Why do you think AKC is good and all others are bad?

Question

I just wanted to know because I know akc is a good registry. However, I don't know why everyone says such bad things about the others. For instance, someone saying it is not a purebreed if it is not akc. I have an aca dog and I don't see anything wrong with the registry. She has a pedigree to show her lines just like on akc. Now ckc I know why that can be bad because you just send in a picture. I just want to know what everyone thinks!

I know that byb's and puppy mills use the other registries but they also use akc and I'm sure they use it just as much. So that can't mean the other registries are bad. It means those breeders are. As for the aca site they have been updating it and they are changing some of the features, it looks alot different now than it used too. I know it used to have those things on there when I bought my puppy because I looked at it before I bought her.

Where did you see that they register mixed breeds? I can't find that anywhere, the only one that I know of that does that is ckc.

Answer 1

Good all breed regs American Kennel Club AKC
The Kennel Club Great britain
and FCI Federation Cynologique Inernationale
And the Canadian Kennel Club CKC
That's it the other clubs are too new and aren't paid much attention too, these above seem to agree closely to most standards but not completely

Answer 2

The AKC is one of very few registries that is accepted by the top registries in other countries. If you went to Canada and wanted to register with the Canadian Kennel Club (the real CKC), they would not recognize the ACA. I am not familiar with the aca, so I would not trust them until I learned more about them. The only other American multi breed registry I trust is the UKC. Some breeds are registered by their own breed clubs. One well known example is ADBA, the American Dog Breeders Association. The only breed they register is the American Pit Bull Terrier. I would never buy a pit without an ADBA registration. There are many rare breeds that have their own breed club registries. Sometimes when a rare breed becomes common enough, the AKC will accept it in their registry. Border collies have only been AKC registered since the early 1990s. Registration papers are not a guarantee of a good example of the breed. It only means that the parents were registered.
I have Alaskan Huskies which is not a recognized breed with any registry. But no Iditarod or Yukon Quest has been won by any other breed.

Answer 3

I trust the AKC. (Now that's not saying I trust all the breeders that raise AKC dogs, because there are always the "bad apples" that will falsify information on papers and such. This is why it is important to deal only with reputable breeders, never backyard breeders or puppymills.)

The other registries, I do not trust. They are typically the registries that puppymillers and backyard breeders use so they can tell potential buyers "our dogs are registered!" and the people blindly think "registered" means "quality".

I don't see anything on the ACA website that tells me anything about their breeds, registration process, etc.. It's like a black box. Not acceptable to me.

EDIT:
RE:" I have heard that the AKC only accepts dogs that are the champion standard of their breed. "

> This is completely untrue. AKC registration just means that you dog is purebred and the parents were AKC registered. It has nothing to do with the quality of the dog itself. Dogs with faults, even disqualifying faults, can still be registered.

EDIT 2:
Other countries have reputable registries too. For example, the Canadian Kennel Club is good. Here is a list of registrations AKC will accept as their equivilent in standard: http://www.akc.org/rules/special_registry_services.cfm

Answer 4

I do not think the AKC is that much better than other registries. I know one of the worst registries is the Continental Kennel Club because, HELLO??? they register "labradoodles" and "pomchis"...AKA non-breeds.

Also, the American Canine Hybrid Club, or whatever, is absolutely pointless and fraudulent.

When you see an ad for puppies, and it says AKC registered, you HAVE to do more research!! You have to make sure they are actually legit puppies, from truly purebred dogs. Sure, both parents could be Golden Retrievers, but are they breed-standard Goldens?
Does the breeder breed responsibly, or as a backyard breeder?

The AKC has some pretty lax standards as far as registering puppies, and I for one have many problems with them in general.
The United Kennel Club also is a better registry, and IMHO, does things a bit better than the AKC.

The Canadian Kennel Club has even more strict policies, but then again, Canada does not have nearly as bad of a dog overpopulation crises going on, at least not yet.
When you see CKC, make sure it is Canadian Kennel Club, NOT Continental!

I prefer dogs from the shelter...papers really mean nothing to me much any more.

Answer 5

Pretty simple;
If you are not breeding or playing games (show/performance events) with your dog/s there is no need for being registered at all. If you are breeding or playing dog games then it becomes necessary to play by the sanctioning bodies rules.
There are actually several good registries here in the US, but you need to do your homework in order to know which ones. The "Stud Book" (yes that is the name of the registry) is almost twice as old as AKC, and is very respected. (never heard of it, did ya,,, ever think that might be the way they want it) UKC (United Kennel Club) is also older than AKC, and they have some outstanding performance event programs.
Most of the others like Continental Kennel Club and ACA were quite frankly started by people that AKC gave the boot because of improper or incomplete breeding records.

Answer 6

I show preference for AKC registration because their stud books are closed. This means that you cannot just bring any dog in with a pedigree and get registration papers like you can with several of the lesser know registries.

It's gives much more certainty that my dog is pure bred without something odd maybe 4 or 5 generations back. That's not to say that the AKC is perfect, they can still have fraudulent papers issued, but it's less likely.

Answer 7

Breeders break canines, no longer the AKC. it relatively is purely a registry, a keeper of archives. that's united statesa., and we are able to argue that many human beings have freedoms, too many via some peoples standards. purely because of the fact the government not often tells human beings a thank you to stay their lives, the AKC would not govern breeders' alternatives, or judges' interpretations of the huge-unfold. it relatively is palms off purely like something of our government right here. The AKC internet site tells you factor clean that it would not recommend all people, or take accountability for the strikes of the breeders linked with it, no greater advantageous than the government can administration what human beings sell of their shops or how plenty they value.

Answer 8

I went to the ACA web site to confirm what I already knew.

the first thing I saw is that you can register with your code you got at the PET STORE! now we all know where pet store puppies come from.

second thing is they register mixed breed dogs.

and you see nothing wrong with this?

even with AKC reg. there is no guarantee of anything. plenty of BYB & mills have AKC dogs

Answer 9

First, I do not think AKC is good and all the others are bad. Any registry is only as good as what you are trying to register. I have a dog registered with USDAA (United States Dog Agility Association) but I wouldn't dream of using that registry to show reproductive quality, for example. Unless I was trying to show off all of the agility titles she has (hypothetically speaking)! But even then, it's not her registry itself that matters but rather what that registration is representing and what ELSE comes with the registration (i.e. Masters Agility titles, etc).

Registries like AKC (UKC, the British KC, FCI, CKC (Candadian) have strong reputations because they have high standards for what dogs they will allow to be tracked in their pedigrees. Registries like CKC (Continental) and NKC have poor reputations because they do NOT track what is listed in their pedigrees. But that only matters if you're *expecting* them to validate it. I have one dog registered with each of those, and in the case of the ConKC it really hurt me because I found out my pedigree was fraudulent (they didn't remotely care, incidentally), but in the case of my NKC dog, it's just a secondary registration for her that we got in order to compete in certain events that they host. I have a pedigree from them but it's the information that *I* gave *them*... I don't expect them to validate it, just track it. I could breed my dog and have them issue pedigrees for the pups, but it would be pretty bogus.

If you are a regular pet owner buying a registered puppy, these "hands-off" registries are bad in that many people charge full-price for "purebred pedigreed puppies", but there is absolutely no guarantee of any such thing. AKC registration does NOT mean a dog is of sound genetic quality, but it SHOULD mean that the pup is of the lineage they say it is. Yes, fraud can still happen but if fraud is proven in AKC, the breeder is kicked out on their butt. It's more effort for a breeder to remain with AKC than one of chintzier registries, so if a breeder departs from AKC you really want to wonder why. Make sense?

Now, as for ACA: yikes. How in the world does ACA track pedigrees? You say that they don't necessarily accept mixed breed dogs... I can't find anything that suggests that they require purebred at all. Their litter registrations don't even list a space for the dog's breed! I can't fathom their process.

WAY worst of all is this passage I found on their website:

"It’s as easy as 1-2-3, to health certify your dog using the ACA Health Certification Form. First take the form to your veterinarian on any visit. Ask your veterinarian if he or she can check the heart, eyes, and teeth of your dog. If your veterinarian can certify that your dog is free of the genetic defects in those areas, he or she will sign on the appropriate sections of the form. "

WHAT???? Your veterinarian does not now or ever will validate the genetic health of a dog. Heart and eye tests are not just something your vet peeks at during an office visit, and teeth aren't even tracked by any breed club I've ever seen (not to say that there aren't conditions that shouldn't be bred regarding teeth). This is the most shameful sham I've seen of ANY registry because it is 100% clearly targeting people who believe that a quality dog is about getting "papers and health clearances" and they're basically giving those things away for the cost of a stamp. You might as well go to one of those companies that'll sell you a medical degree through the mail. I'm really sorry, but I see absolutely no redeeming value from this registry. From what I know if them, they are no more than a shelter set up to legitimize commercially bred dogs and their website backs that up.

The theme here is "standards". What is the organization trying to accomplish, and what is the standard that they are requiring members to meet? AKC is not perfect, but they have among the highest standards. ACA has amazingly low standards. The end result may look the same (registration, pedigree) but the significance is dramatically different.

Don't forget... it doesn't matter if a dog *has* a pedigree. A pedigree is just a list of his family going back a few generations. If you're dealing with purebred dogs, what matters is that someone was paying attention to how that pedigree was built. If you don't know anything about reading a pedigree and you don't know anything about which bloodlines are which and you're not planning to show your dog, then it's really not something to be worried about in hindsight. Now you'll know the difference for the next pup.

Answer 10

AKC is good if you plan to breed , show or sell dogs. Others are not bad. The best pheasant dog I ever had was half shorthair and half lab. He could put those feild trial dogs to shame. Depends upon what you desire. Do you want a good family pet or a good gun dog.? Then papers are not important. I would not trade my unregistered Lasha for all the show dogs in the world.