A question for Catholics?

Question

When I WAS a catholic I was told if you kill or murder someone you will be cut off from God eternally. Is this true? I can cite a lot of scripture saying it is not. For instance Moses killed a guard before he led the people out of Egypt. God ordered Joseph to kill all the people staying in Israel. Are you truly cut off? Please back up with evidence. By the way I am set out to prove what the catholic doctrine is teaching is false teaching. Not because I hate catholics but because just maybe someone might be saved in hearing it. I ask you another two questions. If you die tonight would you go to heaven, if so.....why? Please do not answer that it is up to God because it isn't if you truly read the bible you would know the right answer. In love with Christ! I do not have a religion but a relationship. All my brothers and sisters shout with me!! AMEN!!!

Answer 1

Catholics do not believe in "once saved, always saved."

Catholics beleive that God's gift of free will includes our choice to freely and completely reject God at any time.

1 John 5:16-17 - If anyone sees his brother sinning, if the sin is not deadly, he should pray to God and he will give him life. This is only for those whose sin is not deadly. There is such a thing as deadly sin, about which I do not say that you should pray. All wrongdoing is sin, but there is sin that is not deadly.

Catholics believe:

Mortal sin is a grave infraction of the law of God that destroys the divine life in the soul of the sinner (sanctifying grace), constituting a turn away from God. For a sin to be mortal, three conditions must be present: grave matter, full knowledge of the evil of the act, and full consent of the will.

Venial sin is a sin which does not destroy the divine life in the soul, as does mortal sin, though it diminishes and wounds it. Venial sin is the failure to observe necessary moderation, in lesser matters of the moral law, or in grave matters acting without full knowledge or complete consent.

But continual venial sin can slowly but surely totally separate you from God, placing you into the state of mortal sin.

http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt3sect1chpt1art8.htm#1854

A mortal sin will cut you completely off from God. This is your free will action to turn away from God.

But this is not necessarily for eternity. You can return to God in contrition for forgiveness and restore your relationship with Him.

However if you die in the state of mortal sin then you will spend eternity in hell.

Hell is the state of complete and final self-exclusion from communion with God and the blessed, reserved for those who refuse by their own free choice to believe and be converted from sin, even to the end of their lives.

I like to think of it this way. The only way a person will go to hell is if they want to.

God in His (or Her) unlimited love has given us free will to choose. Our most important choice is to freely decide to accept or reject God's constant offer of spending eternity with Him in heaven. God will respect the choice to reject Him.

For more information, see the Catechism of the Catholic Church, sections 1033-1037: http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt1sect2chpt3art12.htm#1033

With love in Christ.

Answer 2

If you put all your sins on a scale next to a person who has only one sin, the weight would be exactly the same. The penalty for any and all sins is death, no matter how many, how few, how grievous, or how petty. The cure for all sins is Jesus Christ, died and resurrected. Beloved in the Lord, remember that God the Father, who knows every hair on your head, also knew every sin you would ever make even before you made them and STILL, because he loves you so much, sins and all, he has sent Jesus to save you. He would even pull you right out of the depths of hell.

This is Grace. That means this is a gift without strings attached. Knowing full well what you have done and what you will still do, God has given you this gift. It is that you are forgiven and made clean. Holy and pure in the eyes of the Lord.

So my friend in our Lord Jesus Christ... just keep on loving Him, and in return He will keep on loving you... Mat 11:30 For My yoke is easy, and My burden is light. Jesus said it and He is no liar!

Answer 3

definite, i'm a practising Catholic. I do sense undesirable while, at Christmas and Easter, all those "two times a 300 and sixty 5 days" Catholics pop out - yet then I comprehend that it ought to be worse. it ought to alright be achieveable they do no longer pop out in any respect. that's ordinary for somebody, who attends Church a week, to flow to Mass on Christmas, Easter, and Holy Days of legal duty. I usually ask your self basically how plenty harder that's for individuals, who do no longer attend Mass many times, to get out and flow to Mass some time in step with 300 and sixty 5 days. we gained't think of it, through fact all of us be attentive to what we'd be lacking. i do no longer think of those "two times a 300 and sixty 5 days" kinds can completely get excitement from what that's they're lacking. in the event that they did, they had be at Mass greater effective than two times a 300 and sixty 5 days. i'm proud to be Catholic, so that's each and all the greater disappointing once I see human beings taking an "oh hum: attitude in the direction of their vocation as lay Catholics. All we are able to truly do approximately that's pray, and desire that they occasion we set will, sometime, inspire them to start up residing the Catholic life-form all 300 and sixty 5 days around.

Answer 4

" By the way I am set out to prove what the catholic doctrine is teaching is false teaching"

Oh, boy, you have your job cut out for you, good luck. I mean it sincerely. Unfortunately anything you say on this forum will not make the slightest difference in anything... If I were you, I would just concentrate on living my life in a way which *I* think just and noble and forget about saving anybody else...

Answer 5

i've been saved
i kill someone for the heck of it
i'm going to heaven
this is what yo are saying is correct.

i will believe in what the Catholic church has taught me --
i've been saved
i've killed someone for the heck of it
I MUST REPENT AND BEG GOD'S FORGIVNESS & BE TRULY SORRY
In the Catholic church we are taught that all stand before the judgement seat of God. it is then that heaven or hell will be decided.

I don't know what catholic church you grew up in but it's nothing like the ones i beling too. maybe becyase you were young you misunderstood and took things a you wanted to hear them?! i'm not saying that to be rude but what you are saying makes no sense based upon catholic doctrine.

Answer 6

murder is a mortal sin. Mortal sin destroys all the sanctifying grace given to the soul by the Holy Sacraments. A soul without sanctifying grace is unclean and cannot be with God in heaven. Therefore, God forgives our sins through the sacrament of renconciliation, in which the soul is filled with God's grace and our relationship with Christ is restored. If one dies in a state of mortal sin without saying a perfect act of contrition (repentance) or going to confesssion, they will go to hell. God bless.

Answer 7

i personally think that if you are truly sorry for what you have done, than you will not go to hell. God gives us mercy and grace. He will not send us to hell that easily. And yes i do think that if i were to die tonight i would go to heaven because although i sin, God forgives me. and He knows that i have a good heart. and I do have a religion...but i also have a relationship ;)

Answer 8

The Catholic religion is a false and evil teaching. It goes against the bible, and they have no love for God, because they put false gods above the one True God. I think what you are doing is awesome.

Answer 9

I'm sorry, but you are wrong: You have bought into protestant heresy. Some people promote a very attractive idea: All true Christians, regardless of how they live, have an absolute assurance of salvation, once they accept Jesus into their hearts as "their personal Lord and Savior." The problem is that this belief is contrary to the Bible & constant Christian teaching.

Recall this Scripture: "If we have died with him [in baptism; see Rom. 6:3-4] we shall also live with him; if we persevere we shall also reign with him" (2 Tim. 2:11-12). So, ff we do NOT persevere, we shall NOT reign with him. In other words, Christians can forfeit heaven. Jesus tells us, "He who endures to the end will be saved" (Matt. 24:13; cf. 25:31-46). Ergo, if you do not endure to the end, well........

The Bible makes it clear that Christians have a moral assurance of salvation (God will be true to his word and will grant salvation to those who have faith in Christ and are obedient to him [1 John 3:19-24]), but the Bible does NOT teach that Christians have a guarantee of heaven. There can be no absolute assurance of salvation. The Bible says, "See, then, the kindness and severity of God: severity toward those who fell, but God's kindness to you, provided you remain in his kindness, otherwise you too will be cut off" (Rom. 11:22-23; Matt. 18:21-35, 1 Cor. 15:1-2, 2 Pet. 2:20-21).

Note that this includes an important condition: "provided you remain in his kindness." It is saying that Christians can lose their salvation by throwing it away. He warns, "Whoever thinks he is standing secure should take care not to fall" (1 Cor. 10:11-12). , Paul admitted that even he could fall away: "I pummel my body and subdue it, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified" (1 Cor. 9:27). In saying this he points out that even he cannot be infallibly sure of his own present state or of his future salvation.

As a Catholic, when someone asks me if I have been "saved," I answer: "I am redeemed by the blood of Christ, I trust in him alone for my salvation, and, as the Bible teaches, I am working out my salvation in fear and trembling (Phil. 2:12), knowing that it is God's gift of grace that is working in me."

http://www.catholic.com/library/Assurance_of_Salvation.asp

Answer 10

Jesus died on the cross for ALL sin - even murder. There is NO sin that His shed blood will not cover if we are willing to come to Him, confess it, and ask Him to be our Savior. Once that is done - if we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to cleanse us from ALL our unrighteousness! AMEN!!!!