Christians will say that it's not our place to judge God,---but isn't that exactly what he expects us to do wen he asks that we believe he is the one true god?
Doesn't he expect us to judge what is right and what is wrong? He commands us to never commit murder. Does he expect us to look the other way and pretend not to notice when he murders someone?
Why can't he answer these questions for himself instead of having some half educated Christians invent self-serving excuses and B.S.
He gives us very detailed instructions on how we should behave and make judgments, and then he does the exact opposite.
2007-10-21 06:50:00
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answered by big j 5
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So what are you asking? If God really does not know everything? If He is just winging it? If He made a mistake by giving man free will?
The thing that you seem to be missing is the fact that Christ came here to die for the sins of man. Yes, He was tortured. Yes, He was crucified. Even Christ knew that these things would come to pass. He told His disciples that it would happen. BUT, He defeated death. He defeated sin. He defeated Satan in that men no longer had to die the second death because of sin. Remember? "Destroy this temple, and I will raise it in three days."
You are looking at it from a human perspective. A perspective that does not have the knowledge of God. Christ did what He came here to do. He reconciled man and God. Man could once again fellowship with God, without the need of a high priest to intercede for him. Merely use the name of the Son, and you can once again freely talk with the Father, something that had not been done since before man was ejected from the Garden of Eden.
Through Christ, we may enter in to the kingdom of God. No sacrifice needed. The price has been paid. Accept this gift of God's love. He would love for all to come to repentance, so that none should perish. It is man's free will that changes it, and causes the suffering in the lake of fire. Obedience to Christ is all that is needed to change it.
2007-10-20 15:11:54
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answered by Anonymous
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God didn't make us do that. He gives us a choice, and knows what we choose in advance. If He put a neon sign in the sky telling us the best course of action, then what would be the point of having faith in him? The only torture that's inflicted is separation from God, which I've seen many people in this forum gladly choose.
Sorry for the rough tone.
2007-10-20 14:51:55
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answer #3
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answered by Skunk 6
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The fact that God is willing to die for those people who are wicked must tell you something about His forgiveness. I think it's a grand display of GOD'S GRACE.
Remember that God created us and then WE TURNED from Him. That's not God's fault.
The problem here is your moral argument against God. How are you determining what is good and bad? It is impossible to do outside of the Bible.
If God is just (which He is), how could someone assume He is somehow unjust by sending sinners to hell? We deserve eternal damnation! My friend, if you had a glimpse of God's grace, you would have no problem with these questions. Read His word and seek Him.
2007-10-20 15:19:46
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answered by disciple 3
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Parents also may know what there kids are up to and it may not be the best things but they know that their child needs to learn on their own or "the hard way." God is a loving father, he gives everyone the choice, so if they end up in that situation maybe they shouldn't be turning to God and pointing fingers. They should look at themselves because HE does not send them to hell, they choose that option. I don't even know why i answered this question in the first place, that is a pretty ignorant way of thinking.
2007-10-20 14:50:42
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answered by Lauren Ryann 2
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Did you come up with this all on your own or did someone make a book about it? God gave free will to everyone and a destiny for everyone and it is up to the individual to do what is right and follow God or stay of the world and listen to do devil.
It is people like you who try to stray away people from God that will get them to go to hell if they do not repent and serve God.
2007-10-20 15:01:03
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answered by man_of_faith 2
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God DID create a creation as perfect as Him. He gave them a choice to stay that way. THEY are the ones who chose not to be perfect.They knew no evil, only good. But when they ate of the tree of knowledge of good AND evil, They already knew what good was but they desired Evil as well. (NOW Keep In Mind, it was "Their Choice".
Let me ask you this...If you desired to have children, Let's say you had 10 of them. But you knew that 9 of those children would be in a house fire one day and the only way to save them would be the 10th childs (SON ) who grew up to be a fireman. Now your 10th child hates you and does very evil things and breaks the Law. Now you are the Judge and because you're honest and fair you have to sentence child #10 to prison, Knowing that he will be executed for his crimes. But the only way to save your other children is to choose to go ahead and give birth to #10 child so that through him a fireman can be born to save the other children. Would you go ahead and have child #10 in order to save the others Knowing everything that's going to happen to child #10.
God has always desired a people that would love Him ,Knowing that many wouldn't, But yet he loved us so much that he would send His only Son, Knowing what they would do to Him. But, remember Christ GAVE His life because just like the Father He loves humanity so much.But He knew that they needed a Saviour, (A FIREMAN) to rescue as many as possible from the fire (HELL). He calls us to be fireman as well. That's why many are going to Hell, because many will not heed the call. ARE YOU A FIREMAN??? How many will you rescue from the fire??? Or will you be like Child # 10 and have to cause Jesus (who will be our Judge) a lot of grief. Will it be God's fault or your fault that He grieves???
2007-10-20 15:47:58
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answered by Anonymous
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First I'll pose a question in rebuttal. Is it better to have lived at all than to never have existed?
Second, the simple reason God did it this way is because of His glorious plan to show who He is to everyone.
To a criminal, a judge is in authority and probably despised unjustly. To a person who does not break the law, a judge is an instrument to execute justice for preserving society. A judge's son sees the Judge as a kind father who provides for him and loves him.
To those in Hell, God is hated and despised, and they spend eternity there justly. To the angels, God is glorified as being kind to have punished the criminals fairly so that Heaven will forever remain without sin. For Christians, God is glorified by having suffered far worse price than hell so that their sins could be forgiven and they would no longer be counted as criminals, but as children.
God is. He always was. He does not need humanity, but we were created with the purpose and role to enjoy and glorify God for all eternity. We are made in His image and His likeness and we are meant to accurately reflect His attributes.
God is good, patient, kind, just, fair, jealous, all knowing, all powerful, loving, wrathful, and with all these attributes, God is extreme.
Heaven will be joy beyond description, Hell will be torment beyond description. There is NO middle ground with God. There is No compromise with God because bribing a Judge is a crime.
Consider this scripture talking about the end of time...
Revelation 22:11-12 - "11 Let the evildoer still do evil, and the filthy still be filthy, and the righteous still do right, and the holy still be holy." 12 "Behold, I am coming soon, bringing my recompense, to repay every one for what he has done."
This is the final state of man. Whichever direction you were headed in life is the eternal direction you will head in death. If you were heading towards God through repentance and faith in Christ, you will continue that way after death to perfection. If you were headed away from God through wicked and evil desires such as lust, then you will continue in that path for all eternity. You will do evil all eternity because you do evil now, unless you repent and trust in Christ before you die.
When you're suffering in Hell, one thing you'll never be able to do is say that your punishment was not deserved, and you will have no cause to plead your case before God, because God is perfectly Just and He will repay you for everything You've done in perfect and extreme justness.
It's good to read Revelation 20 and 21 several times. This will be the final state of man. Also Revelation 14:10-11 says something interesting... 10 he also shall drink the wine of God's wrath, poured unmixed into the cup of his anger, and he shall be tormented with fire and sulphur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up for ever and ever; and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name."
The smoke of the torment will rise forever and ever. God will see the smoke of the torment forever, and so will all of creation. Why? So God will be praise for all eternity for destroying His enemies completely and utterly and forever.
Have you ever watched Batman? Every week the bad guys get away and keep doing crimes and every week batman has to foil the joker's plans. It will not be that way with God. God will hunt down every single one of His enemies, give them a just and fair trial in front of all of creation, and then put them into eternal flames forever and ever, so as to never devise any wicked plans again.
A preacher one time was commenting on James 5:5 asking why do you think God allows those who are wicked to be the rich, and the powerful of the world? He went on to answer the question... To fatten them up for the slaughter. When the most powerful man on earth is cast into Hell, God will be praised for being ALL-Powerful. When the richest of the wealthy men are cast into hell, everyone will know how worthless and poor he actually was and that all the riches of the world could not buy God's favor. Great will be the fall of the Hollywood stars, and even greater will be their shame.
Most people are blind to the fact that their crimes against God are so bad that they can't ponder why Hell would exist. But when you see clearly who God actually is, and count your crimes against His commandments, it starts adding up quickly, to the point of mountains of iniquity.
The God described in the Bible can give no less punishment than Hell for the crimes of sin, and still be fair, reasonable, and just to all the rest of Creation.
2007-10-20 15:38:56
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answered by dooltaz 4
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You're asking people to try to make sense out of something that's inherently irrational in the first place. But as I've learned, there are many of those who frequent YA that will come up with something.
2007-10-20 14:49:27
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answered by Stephen L 6
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God made a way for all mankind to live in heaven and that way is through Jesus Christ. You can believe and live for
eternity or choose not to believe and go to hell. Its not the will
of God for anyone to suffer,for God so loved the world He sent His Son. Its up to us to believe or not. God does not send anyone to hell! You send yourself By not believing in His Son!
2007-10-20 15:05:06
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answered by Anonymous
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