I need some sites proving the Eucharist to be symbolic.
2007-10-20 03:49:22 · 9 answers · asked by siteoftupac 1 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
You'll find many that insist it is symbolic, but that's a long way from proving it.
"The basic objection to the Catholic doctrine of the Real Presence is not that it is against Scripture, but that it is against reason." http://www.catholic.net/rcc/Periodicals/Homiletic/Jan98/transubstantiation.html
But this presupposes that God can't do what we don't understand with the material substances He, Himself, has created. Not a very reasonable position to take.
2007-10-20 04:07:39 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 1⤋
well whatever you do then do not google Eucharistic Miracles. The Catholic Faith truly has the body and blood of Jesus and the other denominations truly have a symbol.
2007-10-20 13:01:22 · answer #2 · answered by Midge 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
I don't know if this site will prove it to you, but it provides some insight on the Eucharist.
2007-10-20 12:08:34 · answer #3 · answered by Renata 6 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Its obviously easy to prove that the bread and wine don't physically turn into flesh and blood. When you eat the bread at a Catholic mass, does it taste like human flesh?
Of course, the Catholic belief of "transubstantiation" claims that the bread and wine somehow are truly the flesh and blood of Christ, but their physical characteristics and molecular composition remain that of bread and wine. So, its obviously a belief that cannot be physically tested.
In the end, if the person performing the ceremony believes it is symbolic, then it is definitely symbolic. If the person performing the ceremony believes it is not symbolic, then it is obviously part of their belief system that something truly takes place that has some non-physical, untestable effect.
2007-10-20 11:39:59 · answer #4 · answered by Azure Z 6 · 1⤊ 3⤋
You won't find any. The Most Holy Eucharist is literally the body, blood, soul and divinity of Jesus Christ. Jesus even said so in John's Gospel chapter 6.
2007-10-20 10:57:26 · answer #5 · answered by stpolycarp77 6 · 5⤊ 1⤋
A food court in a mall with a Mc Donald next to a Burger King.
2007-10-20 12:47:14 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Why not listen to what the Bible has to say about the Eucharist:
John was an eyewitness to the events of the Last Supper (Jn 6:30-68).
Jn 6:53-56
Jesus said to them, "Amen, Amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day. For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him."
Hence Catholic Christian belief in the real presence of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist rests upon the literal meaning of the words of the Last Supper as recorded by the Evangelists and Paul.
The uniformity of expression across the first four authors affirms the literalness. Belief in the real presence demands faith--the basis of new life as called for by Christ throughout scripture. But faith in signs conferring what they signify is the basis also for the Incarnation--appearances belying true meaning. The true significance of the real presence is sealed in John's gospel. Five times in different expressions, Jesus confirmed the reality of what he means.
Jn 6:51
I am the living bread that came down from heaven; whoever eats this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give is my flesh for the life of the world.
Jn 6:53
Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.
Jn 6:54
Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life.
Jn 6:55
For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink.
Jn 6:56
Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him.
The best way a person can make a clear literal point is repetition of the same message in different ways. Jesus did this. Those around him clearly understood what he was saying--cannibalism and the drinking of blood--both forbidden by Mosaic Law.
Jn 6:60,66
Then many of his disciples who were listening said, "This saying is hard; who can accept it?" ... As a result of this, many (of) his disciples returned to their former way of life and no longer accompanied him.
Had these disciples mistaken the meaning of Jesus' words, Jesus would surely have known and corrected them. He didn't. They had clearly understood his meaning--Jesus' flesh was to be really eaten; his blood to be really drunk.
Non believers often respond that even at the Last Supper, the apostles did not sense that they had flesh in their hands and blood in their cup. But Jesus is God. The creative literalness of the words: "This is my body; this is my blood" must be believed. God cannot lie. And God can turn bread into flesh and wine into blood without the appearances of bread and wine changing.
2007-10-20 11:02:07 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 1⤋
The Bible - which proves that it is NOT symbolic.
2007-10-20 10:53:56 · answer #8 · answered by SpiritRoaming 7 · 3⤊ 1⤋
www.google.com <==== has all ur answers :P
2007-10-20 10:53:08 · answer #9 · answered by DBL-G 3 · 0⤊ 3⤋