Martial arts are rubbish and you lot are all allot of dreamers?

Question

You guys go to a community hall a couple of times a week and think you can hold you own in a street fight. You guys are idiots. I have seen and been in so many street fights and seen so many "martial artists" get their *** kicked. All those joint locks, pressure point strikes, throws and using your attackers power against them is allot is a load of bs. Street fights are over in seconds usually and how they are won is by something I call B.F.T (blunt force trauma). Street fights are always fist fights,there are no rules, you call do all the kata and practice all you like on each other but know it is all in vein. So to anyone out there who is serious about wanting to defend themselves go along to a boxing because everything you learn in boxing is applicable to the street, especially the defensive side of things. Martial arts are just a crock, all these places are after is your money and if you try to use any of this stuff ina real fight you will see that is absoultely USELESS

Answer 1

You are right to say that martial arts are of limited use in a street fight - that's because street fights are about violence, plain and simple and that (as you stated) there are no rules. No rules also means somebody could pull out a knife, or gun, or call on allies at any time.

However, you're the idiot and a liar as well.
You're an idiot because you're missing the point completely. Taking up martial arts so you can get in a street fight is like taking a wine-tasting class so you can become a drunk. Smart people know martial arts are not about fighting and that self-defence is something else entirelly.
You are also an idiot because you think street fights are glamorous and that there is some sort of glory in being involved in them. Street fights are about being brutal and violent onto others, before they are brutal and violent onto you. It is also about being around violent people, and trying to provoke them. I'm willing to bet not many of you have families to support or jobs to go to in the morning. In a word: Get a life.
You are also a liar, because you seem to imply that you have been in so many street fights that you know all about what martial arts can and can't do. My friend, if you had been in that many street fights, you'd have some serious medical problems by now and you wouldn't be going around strutting your ego as if anybody was supposed to care. High school fights don't count, by the way; teenage boys usually don't muster the kind of bad intentions even the average street punk is capable of putting together.

Finally, just a word of advice: Nobody gives a damn how tough you are. The sooner you learn that, the better. I don't care, your mom doesn't care. Your teachers don't care. Your ministers don't care. The only guy who cares how tough you are is you, and maybe the arresting officer as he's trying to decide whether to pepper spray you. Other than that, we have way better things to do than to worry about how tough you are, like really, like a gazillion better things to do.

Good day, sir.

Answer 2

I think you are misunderstanding the martial arts, I have taught mixed martial arts for twenty years, you are taught the right moves you just have to learn how to use them efficiently, learning martial arts is one thing, knowing how to use it is another, kata is only a series of practice fight moves, in a real situation you use these moves but not in the order of the kata, I used to have my students do the katas backwards ? that will get you to think. Useless I don't think so I have had hundreds of serious confrontations when I worked the bars and I done that for 22 years and I have not even came close to losing. I will agree with you there are a lot of club that are just after your money and I have been through that before too but I won't let them interfear with my training I just move on and stay away from them, now I have an awsome instructor I have been with for three years and I would not look anywhere else, he does not care for my money or anyone else's, but if you want to train you must pay so you can have a place to do so,

Answer 3

HOHAN SOKEN one of the last old time okinawan warriors said that modern martial artists especially in the west only know "empty martial arts" nice box nothing in it.
With the emphasis on sports or any kind of matched set fighting where the opponents square off before engaging in combat is unrealistic as real violence doesn't occur that way.
You say you have been in lots of street fights .I think your true skill is playing the "escalation game"but be careful with whom you play it with real street fighters you could end up with the handle of a blade sticking out of your chest or back.Or looking down the barrel of a 9 mil.and you wont hear the shot that kills you .
Real street fighters don't fight to them that's strictly for amateur night at the local bar.They always use an edge an advantage a chair broken bottle knife gun the list is endless.
Because you play the escalation game instead of just avoiding the situation and places where such things happen you will someday realize to late that you should have walked away.
It's not that martial arts don't work todays student isn't given the correct information and the rank requirements are bogus and you are right they just want your money .
If you go to them and say the technique didn't work they come back with the worst excuse of all "you didn't do it right".
PATHETIC.

Answer 4

We never train certain techniques because we expect the ideal situations, fights are messy, but if you get into that certain possition you will know what to do. Fights arn't always quick like you say, sometimes they can go for a while depends on who the fight is between and martial arts is all about giving yourself the best chance to win

In our style anyway, the basis of what we learn is how to have a strong punch and kick and where to strike. Also because we train with full contact, when we go into comps it really teaches out mind on how to act under pressure of what a real fight would be, If you look at people like GSP or Bas Rutten, Bas who was a security guard and never lost a street fight and GSP who used to be picked on in school and now became one of the top MMA fighters how can you say what you say?

And in general, your logic says that there can never be a better fighter than anyone else and that its all about luck, thats like what those people who keep loosing at poker say and yet some people are magicaly consistently lucky than everyone else, well if you think its all about luck, keep going with that, im gona go and train

Answer 5

I think you confuse real martial artist with waterdown ones. Which is easy because anybody can claim to be a blackbelt and it is true 7-10 dojos are mcdojos and they are what i like to call paper blackbelts. Yes they give real martial artists a bad name. And some people for some reason no matter how hard they train , they still wont be able to take a hit.

The fact is most of the time you wont see a real martial artist in a street fight , its because we are smart enough not to be a part of them.

Answer 6

By your insults and exclamations you are obviously very uneducated. Do yourself a favor and go buy a couple self defense / training books written by police officers, and a couple history books about Traditional Martial Arts. Or try this little exercise, it's called "using your brain," the way it works is you ask yourself a question and then actually try to answer it! Question #1 Who invented traditional martial arts? If you really think about it, to invent a martial art you would actually have to know how to fight! Which would mean that those who invented martial arts would be people like: police officers, royal guards, military members, or victims of war and terrorism. Question #2 Why were martial arts invented? Hmm, were martial arts invented to look pretty? Uhh, no. Were they invented for sport or exercise? Nope. Oh wait! I think they were invented for self defense! Yeah that's it, defense during war, on the street, or against pirates/raiders. Wow! Using your brain is really helpful! You should try it.
By the way mr "I've been in so many street fights" I started learning tae kwon do when I was 7 and I got in a fight that very year and beat the kid using the kicks I learned in class! I grew up in socal (L.A. and oxnard) when I was young. In 6-10 grades I lived in the bay area (oakland, San Francisco). I've been in a gang before and I've seen lots of street violence and honestly the only thing I can tell you that you've gotten right is your comment about how long MOST street fights are. Assuming you're not completely full of it about your street experience, don't assume that your experiences with martial arts mean a dam thing, because you are only one person. I've trained in traditional martial arts for most of my life, and i've read A LOT of books and I've talked to A LOT of different people (instructors, police officers, students, and online in forums) and I've learned that there is no "flawed" or "nonfunctional" style, there are only flawed students and instructors. In the street you mostly see 2 types of punches: hooks and straight punches, and they are usually fired off machine-gun style with little to no concern for aim. Kung Fu taught me to check my opponents elbows, stopping their punch before it even makes contact with my body, then following with several hard kicks to the ribs. I sent a banger to the hospital with 3 broken ribs using this Choy Li Fut tactic (which is a traditional Kung Fu art based off the Shoalin 5 animals). To be quite honest, boxing has amateur combat techniques which are closer to bodybuilding or weightlifting than combat. The number and difficulty of the techniques is so small that anyone can learn them, and you win by being the hardest hitter and being able to take the most hits, which makes it a competition of physical ability, not skill. Boxing doesn't help the 5' 6, 120 lb. high school boy getting his *** beat by the 6', 200 lb. gangbanger. Martial arts equalize the playing field with techniques that are effective no matter the size, the difficulty is finding an instructor that will show you how to practice and use the techniques, not finding the techniques themselves. When you grow up and open your mind maybe I can teach you a few things toe dai (young student).

Answer 7

You make the presumption that people learn martial arts to win street fights.

If that was true, you may be right.

But I think most people learn MA for very different reasons. A person who was into street fighting wouldn't last very long at MA, because he wouldn't have the discipline, the patience or the humility to learn properly.

I don't think the two are in any way compatable. They are completely different things.

Answer 8

Is it just me who noticed that THIS ISN'T A QUESTION!?

You seem to be very confused jbriant399, apparently you've "been in so many street fights and seen so many "martial artists" get their *** kicked" yet as recent as 2 weeks ago you've been asking questions on yahoo like "Looking for a simple and tough martial art?" (2 weeks ago), "Jujitsu questions?" (2 weeks ago), etc.

it must've been during those two weeks that you suddenly became such an expert on the subject and dismissed martial arts, or maybe your just talking crap aren't you?

However I'm happy that your taking out your emotional issues on the internet, rather than your previous method you mentioned in your question "I cant stop beating my girlfriend?" (Which also isn't a question).

Answer 9

And yet we find you here posting about your bullying prowess! COOL! We would never have been able to live another day without your one-sided diatribe. While it is true that it would be a good thing to take some boxing, it is also true that you could use some self-discipline yourself. Don "the Dragon" Wilson claims to have been in over 200 street fights and never lost 1. Although most do not get into MA to get into a fight. For myself at least I find it great for the spirit.

Answer 10

It is very apparent that you have not had the pleasure nor the experience of training in a real school with a great sensei. I have had to put my training to the test. I am a 5' 3 1/2" female who tended bar at a local club. The customers are all great, but mix alcohol with different personalities and sometimes things happen. Suffice it to say.....it felt good to put a 6' something man on the floor (without breaking anything or beating the crap out of him) with a couple of well timed moves and no-one getting hurt. I do not think my training has wasted any of my time or $$$. But, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

Good Luck