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2007-10-19 19:30:54 · 13 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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covenent is taken away from them when they tried to kill Messiah. Now, it does not matter if they are atheist or theist. You see, covenent is a kind of mutual agreement and can't be one-sided. How can covenent exists if you reject an ambassador from God.

2007-10-19 19:39:03 · answer #1 · answered by Happily Happy 7 · 2 1

“For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh. But he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that which is of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter; and his praise is not from men, but from God. Then what advantage has the Jew? Or what is the benefit of circumcision? Great in every respect. First of all, that they were entrusted with the oracles of God. What then? If some did not believe, their unbelief will not nullify the faithfulness of God, will it? May it never be! Rather, let God be found true, though every man be found a liar, as it is written, ‘that you may be justified in your words, and prevail when you are judged.’” (Rom 2:28 – 3:4)

The Jews are called. But not all become chosen because they reject God’s invitation. So no, atheists, whether of Jewish blood or not, are not chosen. (Matt 22:10) Read Matthew 22:1-10 for a clearer understanding.

2007-10-19 20:06:46 · answer #2 · answered by Jedidiah 3 · 0 0

Being Jewish is not a race

Being Jewish is not a race because Jews do not share one common ancestry or biological distinction. People of many different races have become Jewish people over the years.

Being Jewish is not a nationality

Being Jewish is not a nationality because Jews have been dispersed throughout the world for almost two thousand years. People of many different nationalities are Jewish.

Being Jewish is like being a citizen of a religious movement

Being Jewish means you are a part of a religious movement. However, the great majority of Jews become a part of the religious movement through birth and not due to their beliefs or actions. In this way, being Jewish is like being a citizen of a religious movement.

A Jewish identity is automatically bestowed on the babies of Jewish mothers (according to Orthodox and Conservative Judaism) and of Jewish mothers or fathers (according to Reform Judaism).
This Jewish identity stays with them throughout life even if they don't actively practice Judaism.

If a person is not born Jewish, he/she can undergo the process of conversion to become a Jew. A person who was not born Jewish or has not gone through the conversion process is not considered a Jew even if he or she believes in Judaism and observes Jewish practices. The conversion process is very meaningful because it is the only way for a non-Jew to become Jewish.

2007-10-19 19:42:47 · answer #3 · answered by big puffy shoes 6 · 0 1

I have never read in the Bible that God's chosen people are no longer his chosen people.


Israel’s corporate stumbling, which is temporary, not permanent, is called a mystery. In Scripture a mystery is not a truth difficult to understand, but a truth previously unrevealed (and therefore unknown) which is now revealed and publicly proclaimed (cf. Eph. 3:9; Col. 1:26; at Matt. 13:10-16, see the chart that lists NT mysteries). Paul wanted to make sure his Gentile readers knew about the mystery concerning Israel in God’s sovereign choice. God’s purpose was so that you may not be conceited (lit., “wise in yourselves”). God’s sovereign plan to put Israel aside temporarily in order to show grace to Gentiles is no basis for conceit on the part of the Gentiles; it is designed to display further the glory of God.

2007-10-19 19:41:11 · answer #4 · answered by gramma 2 · 1 0

Abraham believed God and it was accounted to his as righteousness.
God made a covenant with Abraham and subsequent Covenants Sinaitic, Davidic, Palestinian, New.(with others)
Outlined what people God had chosen.
The idea of a remnant people is throughout the OT, those that followed and honored YHVH.
In the NT God made a covenant spoken of by Jeremiah that those who believed in His Son would be His people.
Read Romans 9,10 and 11 and also the book of Hebrews.
Israel has been set aside temporarily and made judicially blind, but God said He has not finished with Israel and that He would deal with and unbelieving nation and bring them back to life (Belief in Him) Ezekiel....valley of dry bones.
Scripture says one third of Jews will be saved, according to modern figures that should be around 4+ million. All saved in one day.(Those who survive the Time of Jacob's Trouble)
Stay tuned....God has not finished with unbelieving Jews.

2007-10-19 19:48:57 · answer #5 · answered by WYNNER01 5 · 0 0

In case you were looking for a religious Jewish perspective on the subject, as opposed to a Christian perspective, or an insane one...

Okay, so the idea of chosenness has gotten Jews in a lot of hot water over the millenia. It's kind of ironic if you think about it, since the ones persecuting us, using this belief as an excuse, are themselves convinced that THEY are "the chosen people." In Church doctrine, the Jews are "Israel of the flesh," where they are "true" or "spiritual Israel," anxious to claim the title for themselves, and the status they perceive as going along with it.

But let's examine this "chosen" idea briefly. Judaism does not claim that the Jews are somehow superior to the rest of mankind. Different, maybe. But everybody has a job to do, and the idea is that the mission of the Jewish people (the Children of Israel) and the mission of the rest of the nations (the Children of Noah), in an ideal world, are supposed to be complementary. Similarly, a Jewish man is obligated in mitzvos (commandments) that a Jewish woman is not. And a Levite is obligated in mitzvos (though most of them do not apply currently) that an Israelite (i.e. a non-Levite Jew) is not. And a Kohein (Priest - a Levite who is a direct descendant of Aaron) is obligated in mitzvos that apply to neither Levites nor Israelites. But you don't hear the rest of us Jews complaining about the "special status" of the tribe of Levi. Rather, we accept that each of us has a role to play.

You'll find that Judaism does not teach that those outside the faith are condemned to Hell for not being Jews. On the contrary, the Rambam says that "the righteous of all nations have a portion in the World to Come." As a result, there is no pressure on Jews to proselytize the world - rather, those of us who keep the Torah, our job is to serve as an example to the rest of humanity. It's ironic that it is precisely because of the universality of Judaism (in that we don't try to force conversions) that historically, our people have been accused of elitism and bigotry.

So again, "chosen" for what? Chosen to serve as a moral example, the now proverbial "light unto the nations." Chosen to receive the Torah, to study it day and night, to live it. Chosen to make our entire lives a declaration of the sovereignty of G-d in this world, to sanctify His name, and if necessary, to sacrifice our lives to sanctify the name, which is a task that, all too often, we've had to fulfill.

All of this leads us to your specific question, whether non-believing Jews still have the status of "chosen." Well, a non-religious Jew (well, I would argue that an Atheist is a religious person of sorts, as his belief about G-d, unlike that of the rational Agnostic, is based on faith, but that's another discussion for another time) is still a part of the Jewish people, the chosen nation. But as has been explained, "chosen" doesn't mean superior, or privileged. Or rather, our privilege is that of being able to accept the yoke of heaven, as it were. I think it was Tevye who said: "L-rd, I know we're your chosen people. But couldn't you choose someone else once in a while?" And of course, anybody who wants to be chosen, can choose it for him or herself. Some of the most influential figures in Jewish history were converts, or descended from converts. But I digress.

So the Atheist Jew is still chosen in theory, because all Jews are obligated to keep the Torah, whether they realize it not, whether they choose to acknowledge it or not. But that doesn't mean that they do. In our generation, many Jews simply don't know any better. They were raised with foreign beliefs, with alien values, or no values at all. And such people have the status in Jewish law of children who were kidnapped and raised by non-Jews (a more common occurance throughout history than you'd think), and hence, not fully liable. Suffice it to say that when they are judged, as all human beings ultimately are, such mitigating circumstances are factored in.

In the end, all the Jews are chosen. That includes those who are born as Jews, and those who become Jews. But being chosen by G-d only means something if the Jew chooses G-d. So for the Atheist Jew, being chosen really means that he is morally obligated to pull his head out of his tuchas, acknowledge his Creator, and strive to do the will of his Creator. Since our covenant with Him is eternal, our chosen status as a nation can never be revoked. But until the individual Jew acts in a way befitting of one who is "chosen," simply BEING chosen isn't really worth anything.

I hope you find this information helpful. For more on this topic, check out the following:
http://www.aish.com/literacy/concepts/The_Chosen_People.asp http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/160993/jewish/Are-the-Jews-the-Chosen-People.htm

2007-10-21 06:29:59 · answer #6 · answered by Daniel 5 · 0 0

merely atheists might properly be noted as atheists. Jews have faith in God and are the chosen people. The gentiles might properly join that team devoid of being jewish descent. The gentiles are people who have faith in Jesus Christ and are not jewish descent. ohh I see what you recommend. undergo in innovations, we be able to compliment God or no God. God welcomes anybody that needs to return to Him. it extremely is an exciting question, yet i do no longer understand any jew it extremely is atheist. comparable rule applies to all atheists who want to prevail in God.

2016-12-29 19:22:25 · answer #7 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

jewish atheists are a part of the jewish people and always will be.

2007-10-19 19:39:39 · answer #8 · answered by michalkitov 1 · 0 1

You can be born Jewish, but that doesn't make you truly Jewish. You can be born into a Christian family, but if you don't have Faith, then that doesn't make you a Christian simply because you were born into it.

2007-10-19 19:41:14 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Well, actually if you look at it, not every Jewish person was chosen only a select few. Maybe only the homosexual Jews.

2007-10-19 19:34:33 · answer #10 · answered by some female 5 · 1 5

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