If the separation of church and state...?

Question

...is such a good thing then, why is it okay for public schools to indoctrinate children with political beliefs and PC morals? Isn't that a form of hypocrisy?

Answer 1

Public Schools will allow gay groups, but not Bible
study groups. They will allow Dalai Lama but not Jesus.
They'll give birth control, but not speak of abstinance. Our forefathers never intended for church and state to be separate or they wouldn't have carved scripture in the D.C. government buildings, they wouldn't have allowed prayers in Congress, they wouldn't have had the oath of the President presented by placing hands on a Bible, they wouldn't have sang "God Bless America" or the National Anthem, and
they wouldn't have made those famous speaches with
God included in them. What was meant was that there should
be no government-run church....that it's citizens could choose
the way they wanted to worship. They would all turn over in
their graves to see how they are removing God from all
government buildings, lawns, schools, shopping centers,
and everything else they can think up these days. Public
school teachers should only teach history and government, not
political beliefs of their own. It's getting out of hand.

Answer 2

Seperation of church and state keeps a religion from running things. It then clears the way for the state to teach what it has paid for. The state funds public schools and can teach what it wants. It is not hypocrisy, it is indocrination.

Answer 3

There was no such thing as seperation of church and state. Our ancestors came here looking for religious freedom, freedom for all religions, now we have freedom from all religions including the one this country was built on, Christianity. We are one more Presidental election away from being communism only we can't worship the government either. We are coming close now to becoming a religious free society. May God help us and forgive us our trespasses. His mercy was on this country for a long time but I am afraid his hand is slowly pulling away. Pray for the USA.

Answer 4

how is it that christians don't understand that the separation of church and state is also in THEIR best interests? maybe, they will realize this if the day comes when christianity is not the religion of the majority.

ANYTIME you have an authority figure, such as a teacher, leading your child, the child is going to hear a biased opinion. teach your child to THINK for himself!!! personally, i had a teacher that would distribute "chick tracts" to our class, i would do anything in my power to eliminate "abuse of power" like that.

Answer 5

Dude, you make a good point there. When I was in high school me and a friend of mine pointed that fact out our U.S. government teacher. He just told us to shut up, he was as big as a offensive lineman. But, I would also like to point out, when our founding fathers came up with the idea that we now call "separation of church and state" they did not intend for it to be the way it is today. They made it so that there would not be one government ran religion. Back then they were having church inside of the legislative buildings.

Answer 6

In reality if you want to totally shock someone, I mean, totally blow their liberal yugo driving, tshirt wearing, hillary voting, Nancy Palosi supporting minds, ask them to show you where it says Seperation of church and state in the constitution?

It doesn't.

So where does this come from? It comes from a letter that was found. The letter came from Thomas Jefferson. A member of the church clergy had written a letter to Thomas Jefferson as he (the clergy) was curious as to how this new American goverment would treat churches?

Notice!! How the govmt. would treat the church...see that?

Well, Jefferson writes back to the clergyman stating and I quote "You have no need to worry about the goverment interfering as there will be a seperation of church and state" where they goverment cannot interfere.

The letter Jefferson wrote did not say they would abolish religion from schools. This is something, I hate to say it but here goes, the liberal Democrats and liberal Republicans perpetuated on our society.

They twisted and turned the truth of this letter, similiar to what satan does. They even claim its in the consitution as thats what they have been taught but it's not in the constitution or ANY document our founders signed. Not even the Declaration of Independence.

It all comes from this letter. SO there is NO separation of church and state.

If you are a parent and you are reading this what you need to do Immediatly is get your kids out of these Godless schools where they teach that they came from apes and all that cra*

If you are reading this and you believe that you came from an ape..well, heres a message to you from one of your relatives OOOOOOOO OOOOOOO AAAAAAhhhh Ahhhhhh

p.s. An awesome book is Federers AMericas God and Country and there you can read that 53 out of 55 signers of the constitution believed in the Diety of Jesus Christ and all of them believed in God.

Answer 7

So much evil in the world it would be good if someone taught
our children some good,look out in the world people,it,s
getting more evil everyday.

Answer 8

Schools don't indoctrinate with any political agenda. Morals and being accepting of other people are good things to have. I'm sorry if you think being immoral and rude to others is a good thing.

Answer 9

Rick A --

There is not a single mention of God, Jesus, or Christianity anywhere in the US Constitution The issue was discussed and the Founding Fathers voted God out, intentionally. The democratic republic they created was the first 100% secular government in human history. The following was unanimously passed by the 1797 US Congress and signed into law by President John Adams:

•“As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion, …”

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/diplomacy/barbary/bar1796t.htm

Even having a Congressional Chaplain is a violation of the ‘establishment’ language of the Constitution – but then, that is only the opinion of the men who wrote and signed the document.

James Madison (Father of the US Constitution) addressed the issue of Congressional Chaplains.

•“Is the appointment of Chaplains to the two Houses of Congress consistent with the Constitution, and with the pure principle of religious freedom? In strictness the answer on both points must be in the negative."

•"The Constitution of the U. S. forbids everything like an establishment of a national religion. The law appointing Chaplains establishes a religious worship for the national representatives… Does not this involve the principle of a national establishment, applicable to a provision for a religious worship for the Constituent as well as of the representative Body, approved by the majority, and conducted by Ministers of religion paid by the entire nation?”

•“The establishment of the chaplainship to Congs is a palpable violation of equal rights, as well as of Constitutional principles: The tenets of the chaplains elected [by the majority shut the door of worship agst the members whose creeds & consciences forbid a participation in that of the majority. To say nothing of other sects, this is the case with that of Roman Catholics & Quakers who have always had members in one or both of the Legislative branches. Could a Catholic clergyman ever hope to be appointed a Chaplain! To say that his religious principles are obnoxious or that his sect is small, is to lift the evil at once and exhibit in its naked deformity the doctrine that religious truth is to be tested by numbers or that the major sects have a tight to govern the minor.”

http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/amendI_religions64.html

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"The founders of our nation were nearly all Infidels, and that of the presidents who had thus far been elected [Washington; Adams; Jefferson; Madison; Monroe; Adams; Jackson] not a one had professed a belief in Christianity....
"Among all our presidents from Washington downward, not one was a professor of religion, at least not of more than Unitarianism."

 The Reverend Doctor Bird Wilson, in a sermon preached in October, 1831, first sentence quoted in John E Remsberg, "Six Historic Americans".
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"I have diligently perused every line that Washington ever gave to the public, and I do not find one expression in which he pledges, himself as a believer in Christianity. I think anyone who will candidly do as I have done, will come to the conclusion that he was a Deist and nothing more."

 The Reverend Bird Wilson, in an interview with Mr. Robert Dale Owen written on November 13, 1831, which was published in New York two weeks later
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THOMAS JEFFERSON

"The Christian god can easily be pictured as virtually the same god as the many ancient gods of past civilizations. The Christian god is a three headed monster; cruel, vengeful and capricious. If one wishes to know more of this raging, three headed beast-like god, one only needs to look at the caliber of people who say they serve him. They are always of two classes: fools and hypocrites."

"Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity." –Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782.

"And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerve in the brain of Jupiter. But may we hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this most venerated reformer of human errors." –Thomas Jefferson, Letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823

"Religions are all alike – founded upon fables and mythologies."

"I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature."

"Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man."

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JAMES MADISON

"In no instance have . . . the churches been guardians of the liberties of the people."

"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise."

"What influence in fact have Christian ecclesiastical establishments had on civil society? In many instances they have been upholding the thrones of political tyranny. In no instance have they been seen as the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wished to subvert the public liberty have found in the clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate liberty, does not need the clergy."

During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution."

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ABRAHAM LINCOLN

"The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession. I could never give assent to the long, complicated statements of Christian dogma."

Answer 10

Politics does not equal religion, dorkus.